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Oztea 1939 (1st game) SbY Allies vs CdS Axis
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Well good luck and have fun! Its going to be a real learning game for both of us.
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Germany starts first.
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Yes, I know! Still trying to come up with a gameplan. Might take me a while. Curious to see what your G1 would look like. Perhaps after I send mine you can say if you would do more or less the same as I did?!
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So you’ll have to play the first turn. Or do you want me to set up the game?
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No, Ill play the Axis (just thinking about what is good strategy to start with. I am working on it.
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Okay, good. Just making sure you remember. Yeah, it’s definitely a tough one. Not sure what I’ll do either. Something for future me.
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Well I have come up with a plan, not sure if its the best one, but for now I feel this is the most promising. Depending on how well I can bend or implement the rules to accommodate me ;) Not sure what to make of all the new politics yet, how it can help me or turn against me. The rules (the link you send me) didnt mention much about politics and what nations can do what etc. Its not really rules, more a explanation on whats on the board and where you are at in the war (what year etc)
Do you wish to scramble?
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About the rules: Yeah, that’s why I had all these questions and why I couldn’t do a game the first time I tried.
Anyways, I already spotted a major question:
Can the UK and France declare war on Italy the first turn? It’s not clear at all. @oztea
In the meantime, I’ll scramble.
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Are you Sure about the scramble? Its 5 units VS 3 and the scramble in Scotland is useless, because you cant defend vs planes
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I mean vs subs :)
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Yeah, I have no idea how to play this variant (again, first time with a human opponent), so why not (not an actual question)?
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Game History
Round: 1 Research Technology - Germans Note to players Germans: Welcome to "Oztea 1939 Global" This is Version 1.96. It was uploaded on 1-4-2021. Make sure All Players have the same Version. It is recommended to read the "Game Notes". Persia, Nort.... Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 artilleries and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia 4 armour moved from Germany to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Germany to Denmark 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 mech_infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Denmark 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 123 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 86 Sea Zone to 84 Sea Zone 5 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Norway 3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Germany 2 bombers and 4 fighters moved from Germany to Poland 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Western Germany Combat - Germans British scrambles 2 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone British scrambles 1 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 119 Sea Zone Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Battle in Norway Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 3 infantry Germans win, taking Norway from Neutral_Allies with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 3 infantry Battle in Denmark Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 1 infantry Germans win, taking Denmark from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 1 infantry Battle in Poland Germans attack with 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 13 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 10 infantry Germans win, taking Poland from Neutral_Allies with 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 12 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 10 infantry Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport Germans win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Casualties for British: 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport Battle in 84 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship British defend with 1 cruiser Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans win with 1 battleship remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 cruiser Battle in 119 Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 submarines British defend with 1 carrier and 2 fighters British and Germans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 carrier Battle in 106 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Moving scrambled unit from 119 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Scotland 1 fighter owned by the British forced to land in Scotland Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Norway to Western Germany 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 bombers and 4 fighters moved from Poland to Western Germany 1 mech_infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany 1 armour moved from Germany to Romania Germans take Slovakia Hungary from Neutral_Axis Germans take Romania from Neutral_Axis 4 aaGuns moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 84 Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs -
@SuperbattleshipYamato said in Oztea 1939 (1st game) SbY Allies vs CdS Axis:
About the rules: Yeah, that’s why I had all these questions and why I couldn’t do a game the first time I tried.
Anyways, I already spotted a major question:
Can the UK and France declare war on Italy the first turn? It’s not clear at all. @oztea
In the meantime, I’ll scramble.
UK can declare war on Italy first turn, its in the politics, as well as Italy can declare war on either UK and or France.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in Oztea 1939 (1st game) SbY Allies vs CdS Axis:
About the rules: Yeah, that’s why I had all these questions and why I couldn’t do a game the first time I tried.
Anyways, I already spotted a major question:
Can the UK and France declare war on Italy the first turn? It’s not clear at all. @oztea
In the meantime, I’ll scramble.
I wanted to send ftrs towards Italy (airbase) to help upgrade the defense vs UK and France navy attacks, but because Italy is still out of the war it wouldnt let me. Thats the downside playing with the Axis in this scenario. I also reckon that the Allies can take a lot of territory to help them boost their economy, they are already very rich it seems.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in Oztea 1939 (1st game) SbY Allies vs CdS Axis:
About the rules: Yeah, that’s why I had all these questions and why I couldn’t do a game the first time I tried.
Anyways, I already spotted a major question:
Can the UK and France declare war on Italy the first turn? It’s not clear at all. @oztea
In the meantime, I’ll scramble.
I have taken a look at the politics panel in the game itself, I think there is some kind of bug or so going on. Because Japan is allied to Italy, but Germany is not yet allied. Seems strange that Italy is already allied to Japan and not yet to Germany.
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But it wasn’t stated in the 1939 thread, and as Panther says, we should never trust TripleA for rules (even if I am guilty of that myself sometimes). It could simply be an unintended and undesired consequence of something else (even if I think that’s unlikely). I guess my standard of proof is much higher than yours. I’m fine going with these rules regardless.
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Actually, Italy’s navy in sea zones 95 and 97 is very safe for turn 1, as are its North African units (I ran the calculations).
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Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 2 artilleries and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 1 armour moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Volgograd 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Vyborg 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Vyborg 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia Russians take Bessarabia from Neutral_Axis 1 fighter moved from Russia to Baltic States Combat - Russians Battle in Northwest Persia Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry Neutral_Axis defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northwest Persia 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Northwest Persia Russians win, taking Northwest Persia from Neutral_Axis with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Neutral_Axis defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Baltic States Russians win, taking Baltic States from Neutral_Axis with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 1 infantry Battle in Vyborg Russians attack with 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Neutral_Axis defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 2 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Vyborg Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Vyborg, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Vyborg Russians win, taking Vyborg from Neutral_Axis with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Vyborg to Rostov 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland Russians take Eastern Poland from Neutral_Allies 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Samara to Vologda 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda 2 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk 2 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska 2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey 2 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. 2 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 1 fighter moved from Buryatia to Yenisey 2 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha 2 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia 1 destroyer moved from 5 Sea Zone to 4 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 4 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Vyborg Place Units - Russians 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Novgorod 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine 5 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 1.00 Neutral_Axis regular : 0.33 -
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