TRN as casualty in Amphib Assault?

Hi!
So the first question is - can you use destroyers as transports for lightning assaults? It seems like you should be able to, but it’s kind of unclear.

The second scenario: We have a transport attacking one territory and then lightning assaulting to a different territory and are wondering if - on the second attack - we can bring in planes that did not participate in the first battle. And also if a battleship waiting in the harbor of the second attack can bombard for that second assault.

Thanks!

Just adding my support to our Rules Expert Krieg…  His statements are 100% correct regarding Amphibs.

@Gamer:

@Krieghund:

@Gamer:

AA gun shots are directed fire (i.e., shoots at EACH air unit).  Therefore, you roll a specific die for each plane.

Not exactly.  According to the FAQ, you don’t literally roll a specific die for each plane, you just roll for the bombers and the fighters separately.  It’s still up to the air units’ owning player which individual units are hit within that type.  This makes a difference only insofar as choosing to lose a plane that has travelled further to the combat in order to allow more flexibility in where to move surviving planes after combat.

The purpose of this rule is simply to keep the owning player from assigning all AA hits to fighters rather than bombers.

Krieg, thanks for the clarification.  You are correct.  I think Triple A automatically assigns the hit to the plane traveling farthest, which is virtually always what you would prefer.

I thought Triplea picked the individual planes by random.  I’m pretty sure I’ve had battles where I was left with fewer movement points than I expected.

Unless you lose or retreat from the naval battle

I sure hope you pulled the carcasses of your submarine captain’s out of the water, tore their heads off and put them on pikes at the naval yards as a warning to the next sub captain.

Under LHTR, in the description of AA guns, it does include a specific exception to AA guns ONLY moving in NCM when being carried on TRNs.

It is not 100% conclusive.  But it is more than enough to make me think that the AA gun does indeed offload in COMBAT movement (but of course cannot “attack” so it is ignored as a unit for the attacker).  If the Attacker wins the combat, they finish setting up the AA gun in NCM, and it protects the newly captured territory.  If the attacker is thrown back into the sea, the defender gains the AA gun.

At least, that is how I read it…

I just looked at the Harris rules, and it does say that the land units cannot retreat into a country that only a plane came from.  However, it also says that the planes can retreat, and all land units stay.  To this point, my group has used the avalon hill game rules to the word, just so we don’t have people constantly wanting to change the rules.  The rules affect everyone equally, so who really cares what they are.  However, if the larry harris rules are more specific about the ambigueities of the game rules, then maybe we’ll have to switch.

i like the first variant of assault guns.