Japanese First Turn

40 IPC’s. I do it every time I play Japan. I take the PI and all the DEI, Malaya, Borneo & Hong Kong. These = 21 IPC which puts Japan @ 40 IPC’s. If all goes well I do not lose too much units due to Japans 1st round attack advantage. (All Allied units, except the Chinese, defend at 1 on the dice) Tonight I won by VP’s, holding over 40 (I topped out @ 45) for 6 rounds. USA had sunk Japans navy on T5 after I slammed into AUS capital after building up INF & ART for a couple rounds and lost that battle. I pretty much had expanded all my forward units and had started reinforcing the India campaign. By the time the USA started to xport land units it was too late. It was great game w/ a few navel battles that cost both sides alot of hardware! Great fun! My boys are grumbling by being beat by the “ol Man” again.  :-D

Thank you

Hello there!

I’m sure Japan alomost always wins when going for 22 VP’s.

I wonder myself what to do with allies to avoid that very same ending.

It sounds very interesting to me what u said about Subs and substall.

Could u explain?

I suppose u mean US subs should try to substall Japan fleet/s while conquering

and island to go bombing Japan.

Is it?

Thanks for u’r attention,

I hope for a kind answering

Best whishes, Stefanilli ; )

Hi folks

the move against both Hawaii and us fleet is a great move… unfortunately you can’t place your carriers in the Aleutian seazone, that would make your planes (in zone 5) make an illegal combat move.
You can’t use the carriers to make a move forward and then send of planes, the planes can only move four spaces.

When I try to make this move and I usually do this.
2 subs to z9
2 planes to z9
4 planes to z5

You will then typically have 2 fighters left from z5 and both fighters from z9
You will only loose 2 subs and 2 fighters total
(these are based out of statics’s of 1000 battles)
The US fleets will be destroyed with the exception of 1 sub left in z5 (if he doesn’t submerge this, he’s crazy)

I would recommend that you then take your carriers and move them to the northern US convoy in z6 and land your fighters here.
Now I know this means that theres a chance that you will loose the carriers and the fighters. US is able to respond to this on their first turn with 3 ftr 2 bmb and 1 sub. But with the convoy there and away from the remainders of the us fleet, its the best choice, if you are performing this move.
The outcome of this battle is very luck dependent, your fighters will have nowhere to land if you loose your carriers. so the sub has a lot to say in this battle.
if we look at the numbers again the us will only be able to clear this zone in about 20% of the time… which is pretty good odds for japan.
But still it would be foolish of the US not to try to make a move against the carriers, as the attacker they have the option of retreating, if it turns out to the dice are against them.

This is IMO a great advantage for japan, as the US will have to build their whole navy again from nothing. You take the convoy, its only 5 IPC but the US will not be able to take the convoy back until turn 2. Besides if they attack you get the chance to weaken their airforce as well.
Sure its a shame to loose the carriers this early in the game, this makes an Australian invasion very hard and you won’t have the power to do nothing else than delay the forthcomming US fleet, without the carriers.
It all depends on your playing style, but if you want to be aggressive, this is a great move. Especially if you go for an Indian invasion, as the US won’t be able to get there before its to late, if you go for this.

Regards,
Daniel

yeah, i wish somebody could ban him or something

We had 4 guys here last night and we decided to try Pacific (we’ve played World and Europe before). With an extra person, me and my friend decided to team up and rule Japan.

Turns out that wasn’t the best thing to do, it came down to him doing mainland Asia and me managing the Pacific, and that probably tripped us up.

Anyway, heres how it went down.

The 6 planes attacked the Pearl Harbor fleet. Lost 1 fighter and destroyed the fleet. The Fighters came back to sea zone 17 (West of Hawaii) and landed on the carriers.

I decided to take out a lot of stupid islands, another flaw. Guam and Wake easily fell to combos of infantry / fighters / destroyer bombards. I used some destroyers as 1 inf transports.

Then i took the Philipines with every warship in range, and 2 transports (4 inf) and planes. Lost 1 inf in the invasion (this dude can roll 1’s like a mofo).

I took Hong Kong with 1 arty.

My friend did china, and we won with i think 1 inf lost (we beat the 2’s better than the 1’s, somehow). I don’t remember exactly what we took in China but whatever, it didnt matter.

I then moved the fleet @ caroline to the carrier fleet W of Hawaii.

The first turn was way too slow, looking back. Played far too conservatively.

The British player dropped 3 tanks for india and a fighter and something for the Aussies. They did some attack and failed.

America dropped 2 battleships and a destroyer (60 IPC) and saved the other 15. That’s f*cking insane if you ask me. America didn’t do any attacks, and consilidated their fleet @ Hawaii. The two big assed fleets were staring eachother in the face. Advantage America.

Rather than go on at length, I can summarize the rest of the game quickly.

Japan continued to grind through China. We lost NOTHING until we hit Szechwan, which for some reason wouldn’t die. After takign moderate losses we decided to bypass it and head for India. Japan now had 2 fleets, and one began to swing around to India. The one facing overwhelming odds near America retreated to Sea Zone 27 (New Britian / New Guinea), killing a smaller british fleet with no losses (tipped / untipped battleships). New Britian was Invaded.

I’ll just summarize “the end” of the game. The Japanese fleet heading to India, well, got raped. The British, in a move of desperation, engaged the larger japanese fleet. The laws of probability were proven wrong as the Brits destroyed a Battleship, carrier, 2 fighters, 2 destroyers, and 4 transports while only losing a transport and a sub. Insanity. The land assault on india failed (they had one fighter left! ACK!)

Basically, Japan was out of continential Asia. We had some defensive forces but most of it was thrown at India. The Japanese fleet consolidated in the Sea of Japan, the American Fleet moved to Sea Zone 22 (2 East of Mainland Japan, out of kamakazie range). The Brits nabbed most of continental asia and america took over some islands.

We declared the game over, because japan was dead in the water with 11 VPs, getting 1 a turn. It was a matter of time until America got a lot of land forces, but not 11 turns.

As a laugh, we rolled out the Sea of Japan battle. Here are the fleets:

Japan came out with 3 Battleships in tact.

I don’t know, the Allies have a hard enough time winning as it is. :-?

Ha, as it is, I don’t own A&A: P either!