sorry about not using the correct Marti. My brain is too full today, will try tomorrow.
Merry Christmas!
1914 - TGC (CP) vs. VF (Entente), oob, no bid
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I believe the only optional rule is Russian Revolution. I hope its okay with you if we use this optional rule at least for this first game? Not sure who it will help/hurt more but would like to try it.
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Game History
Round: 1 Puchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 2 fighters and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Tyrolia to Venice 1 infantry moved from Trieste to SZ 18 1 infantry moved from SZ 18 to Tuscany 4 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice 1 artillery moved from Trieste to Venice 1 artillery moved from Trieste to Venice 1 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia 2 artilleries moved from Budapest to Serbia 5 infantry moved from Budapest to Serbia 1 infantry moved from Budapest to Serbia Combat - AustroHungarians Battle in Tuscany AustroHungarians attack with 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 battleship in Tuscany, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tuscany, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tuscany, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tuscany Italians win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in Venice AustroHungarians attack with 4 artilleries and 10 infantry Italians defend with 2 artilleries and 6 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 artilleries and 10 infantry in Venice, round 2 : 5/14 hits, 6.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 6 infantry in Venice, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4.00 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 5 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Venice Italians and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 4 infantry Casualties for Italians: 5 infantry Battle in Serbia AustroHungarians attack with 2 artilleries and 7 infantry Neutral_Allied defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 7 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 3.67 expected hits Neutral_Allied roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Neutral_Allied, 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allied and 1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Serbia Neutral_Allied and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allied: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Combat Move - AustroHungarians 6 infantry moved from Budapest to Galicia 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Bohemia to Galicia 2 artilleries moved from Vienna to Galicia 2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste 10 infantry moved from Vienna to Galicia Place Units - AustroHungarians 2 fighters and 4 infantry placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 26 PUs; end with 28 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.50 Neutral_Allied regular : -1.00 AustroHungarians regular : -1.67 -
@VictoryFirst ^ this download is good to go
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@the_good_captain Sure, I am totally ok with that! I believe the Central Powers have no chance of winning without that rule, but that’s just my thought.
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Game History
Round: 1 Puchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Romania Russians take Romania from Neutral_Allied 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Ukraine to Belarus 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Moscow to Belarus 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Tatarstan 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Poland to Belarus 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Livonia to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Livonia to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Moscow 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia 1 infantry moved from Tatarstan to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Tatarstan 1 infantry moved from Tatarstan to Sevastopol Combat - Russians Combat Move - Russians Place Units - Russians 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Moscow Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 28 PUs; end with 28 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 1 Puchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 fighter and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 4 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Kiel to Denmark 1 fighter moved from Berlin to Denmark 3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium 3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Alsace to Belgium 3 infantry moved from Prussia to Poland Combat - Germans Battle in Denmark Germans attack with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry Neutral_True defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 4.50 expected hits Neutral_True roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_True lost in Denmark Neutral_True and Germans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_True: 3 infantry Battle in Belgium Germans attack with 6 artilleries and 14 infantry Neutral_Allied defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 6 artilleries and 14 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 13/20 hits, 8.67 expected hits Neutral_Allied roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Neutral_Allied, 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allied and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belgium Germans win, taking Belgium from Neutral_Allied with 6 artilleries and 12 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allied: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Battle in Poland Germans attack with 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Poland Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Combat Move - Germans 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Prussia to Silesia 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Munich to Alsace 6 infantry moved from Hanover to Ruhr 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia Place Units - Germans 1 fighter and 9 infantry placed in Berlin Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Denmark: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Denmark: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from SZ 7: 2 submarines EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from SZ 5: 2 submarines EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to SZ 10: 2 submarines EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to SZ 4: 2 submarines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 42 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Neutral_Allied regular : 0.00 Russians regular : -0.50 Germans regular : 3.83 Neutral_True regular : -1.00 -
updated with Africa. sorry about that. I edited +3 German PU.
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For some reason this file is not a forum game. If I click on play by forum, no settings are filled in, but in that other one, it does. -
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I edited your German moves in this file. I don’t mind about the mistakes. It can happen to everybody. I can remember that I played a game of G40 Balanced mod for the first time with someone, and I forgot about the ‘Chinese infantry spawning in each territory not covered by an Axis land unit’ rule. He had to edit a lot of my Japanese moves back! I was full of shame… :(
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@victoryfirst British are up now =)
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Lol, forgot about the turn order…I attacked your subs in sz # (the one up near Scotland) with two cruisers. I made a mistake, I thought your subs had to go through one round of combat, and then they are allowed to submerge, but that isn’t the case. You can submerge in any round of combat if you don’t roll for combat that round for your sub. I got no hits, and you got one hit. Then I thought you probably wanted to submerge, but I was mistaken about the rules. So, what now? I guess you wanted to forfeit your defense roll and submerge your subs after my two cruisers both missed?
And I thought I had a factory in Canada, but that wasn’t the case, so instead of buying a ship I saved the money.
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@victoryfirst My vote is you do with the cruisers what you would have done had you known exactly how the rules worked. Honestly, I didn’t even know that so no worries.
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this UK cruiser attack against the German subs is actually really interesting. First the rule:
“The submarine, although submerging rather than firing, is still
subject to the results of that round’s enemy combat die rolls. If they
roll a hit the submarine may be chosen as a casualty or must be the
casualty if it is the only target. If the submarine survives the die roll
and submerges, it is considered to have broken off from the battle
and may not fire or be taken as a casualty in any subsequent round
of the battle.” -page 20So the order of operations (as I see it) should be:
A) British cruisers move into the sea zone with the two German subs and declare an attack
B) The Germans must now decide if they will declare their subs “submerged” or not.
C) If the German subs submerge, UK cruisers each roll a die and apply casualties. There is no return fire from the German subs in this case.
D) If the German subs decide NOT to submerge, the first round is fought “normally” with both sides rolling a pair of dice: the British hit on “3” or less, the Germans hit on “2” or less.
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I’m not sure what my personal decision would have been in this case - an open fight with both of those cruisers was only a 63% chance of UK winning since subs defend on “2” in 1914. Since this game is supposedly imbalanced in favor of the allies, I feel this would be a great opportunity to knock out one or both UK cruisers. Did you think subs defend on a “1”?
Maybe the best thing to do in this case is to keep your cruisers in the sea zone with my subs and we say that my subs declared a “submerge” before we saw your roll. In this case, mine never rolled back at you so we can ignore the hit. Chalk it up to inexperience on the part of both of us?
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Well yeah, I thought subs were those very bad-at-defence units, and I wanted to sacrifice a few ships to have a chance to destroy one of your submarines before they spread out or combine with your fleet. Apparently, they roll at a 2, and now I think about it, it was probably not that good of an attack, as there was a big chance I would at least lose one cruiser, and losing a cruiser against a sub is not a good trade. If I knew the rules, it was maybe worth it. I mean if you submerge, I have a chance to kill one or both of your subs without getting a hit.I guess the best thing to do is what you said, pretend you submerged and my cruisers missed.
Here is the save file with the edit:
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“If a major power moves units into a minor neutral power’s capital territory, the invaded neutral power will mobilize forces against the invading force. Serious consideration should be given to which power will represent the mobilized forces. It can be any of the powers that are on the opposite side from the power that is performing the invasion. For example if Germany (Central Powers member) invaded Holland, one of the Allied players would place his or her infantry and artillery. It should also be noted that if Holland ends up being controlled by the Allies, the ally who originally mobilized in Holland would most likely gain Holland’s 2 IPCs if the territory ends up in his or her control.”
I wasn’t sure this would ever really matter but the UK invasion of Persia meant that I was supposed to declare Persia to mobilize Austrian, German or Ottoman pieces. It sounds like this is done before the combat round not that that matters much. Anyway, I will turn them into Ottoman pieces before starting my turn. You probably should decide which country the Danish will be mobilized by too.
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@the_good_captain Good that you mentioned it. I would like to have the Danish join the Brits. But it does not matter that much actually, as most of the time these neutral’s territories will be contested, yielding no IPC for its major power (so Britain, unfortunately, does not get two extra IPC… :( , as I thought at first)
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Game History
Round: 1 Puchase Units - Ottomans Ottomans buy 1 fighter and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Ottomans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol 1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria Ottomans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Central Combat - Ottomans Battle in Sevastopol Ottomans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry and 1 port Ottomans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Sevastopol Ottomans win, taking Sevastopol from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Combat Move - Ottomans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Persia: 1 artillery and 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Ottomans to Persia: 1 artillery and 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia 1 artillery moved from Persia to Mesopotamia 1 infantry moved from Smyrna to Syrian Desert 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia 1 infantry moved from Persia to Mesopotamia 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara 1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara Place Units - Ottomans 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in Constantinople Turn Complete - Ottomans Ottomans collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@the_good_captain Hmm, that’s weird. I wanted to reinforce Venice, but the game engine started a battle there, while it’s possible to reinforce a contested area without initiating combat, or am I getting this wrong? (On top of that, I got diced really hard with no hits, and almost all your units got a hit xD)
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