Declaration or war during an opponent’s non-combat movement


  • @insanehoshi I think that makes since, though it is problematic, as it can never stop a moving fleet.
    If occurring during the combat movement phase, I would assume that it would count as the “new combat move” and the fight would occur.


  • @trig along this line of thought if you non combat move say a transport through a sea zone where an enemy sub is present can he stop it and sink it?


  • @linkler I think the way it works is that you cant non-combat move through a zone with a submarine except in the case of you have forced the submarine to submerge using MAP, if you did that, your transport can non combat move through since you can share sea zones with a submerged sub as per 0.5.

    Also i think any movement that may result in combat, is combat movement.


  • @trig this is why the DOW has to be made before any combat moves occur.


  • @jon-b refer to General Hand Grenade DOW video and follow on video on the steps for DOW

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    We could even make it more complex. Say a British fighter moves through a sea zone with a neutral Italian fighter on MAP/CAP, and while the British fighter is two steps away of its AC with the neutral fighter in between and it fights a battle with a German destroyer and wins, what would happening Italy decides to declare war before non combat by the Brits back to the IC. Everything is immediately, so the British fighter would be at war with Italy and be denied to fly back to its AC and crash? Or would it fight the Italian fighter on its way back? And would the AC be allowed to go towards the fighter with the Italian fighter in its way. I think the immediate rules make the game more complex and although a nice starting point it is cumbersome in such gaming situations. It would be a lot easier to play and remember if DOW can be done in your own combat and non combat movement phases and in all the other phases of you and your opponents. But not in your opponent’s combat and non combat phases. Mind that fun is more important than FAQ’s, so house rule such things. If playing outside your own group like on the Internet, use the official solutions. This as a suggestion to not overcomplicate the situations. In the immediacy combat would occur if the DOW is done in the opponent’s combat move. If say three ships have passed and a neutral destroyer would go to war with you, the fourth ship you announce would not be able to move into that destroyer’s sea zone because of the sudden war status, but it would be allowed to leave if it was already in there. Easy does it by excluding the DOW in opponent’s movement phases. Many roads lead to Rome.


  • @delaja I think it should be like this: if you want to stop movement from
    Happening you must declare war before any moves have been made.
    Also: you may choose to declare war after combat moves have been made in order to “surprise a naval
    Combat by adding your units in to the fight where you share a sea zone with your ally. L”


  • @theveteran hopefully there’s a little more clarity in v4

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    My advise is make clarity your own priority.

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    @theveteran
    Good additions 👍🏼

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