Submarines & Target Selection V3

@meyott Hey there! I haven’t been able to bust the game out in a while, so I’m maybe a bit rusty here, but I believe these should answer your questions.

When Greek Alignment happens would depend on at what point in the game Turkey is Aligned too. If the Axis win Influence over Greece before they’re at war with anyone, then Turkey would not be Aligned with the Axis just yet, and so Greece would not be able to become Aligned with the Allies right away. If the Axis was at war with the Allies, then Greece would become Allied Aligned immediately.

There’s seemingly a bit of contradiction between the Turkey At War Expansion rules, and the Turkey Reference sheet though.

The Reference Sheet states that “If Turkey becomes Axis Aligned (i.e. its at war with the Same Major Power as Germany Japan or Italy), Greece will immediately become Allied Aligned”.

The Expansion rules at 1.5© and 1.6 state:

“1.5© Declaration of War: Even if Turkey becomes Aligned to a Major Power an independent run Turkey is not forced to declare war and can remain neutral until it wishes to. Other nations can declare war on Turkey as per Global War Rules”;

“1.6 Greece: If Turkey becomes Axis Aligned, Greece will immediately become Allied Aligned”.

So to me, the Reference sheet is saying that Greece becomes Aligned with the Allies when Turkey is at war with the same Major power as the Axis, but the Expansion rules at 1.6 just say Greece becomes Allied Aligned the moment Turkey becomes Axis Aligned, seemingly regardless of Turkey’s belligerent status.

I know that’s not me really answering the question, haha. We’ve played based on what the Expansion Rules say though and not the Reference sheet, meaning that once Turkey becomes Axis Aligned, Greece will become Allied Aligned, regardless of Turkish war status.

Good point on Home Country here. I guess I’d refer to the rulebook for “Home Country”:

“Each nation has a group of land zones that comprise their Home Country as defined on the National Reference Sheet. For a Minor Power the Home Country includes the primary nation but not its colonies, islands or conquered land zones”.

@board-3659 I wish i had that file. I would be making changes however

This was clarified in the FAQ :

Q: As Defender, do you need an Airbase for your Fighters to intercept a Strategic Bombing raid?

A: No. Not if your units are in the same zone as the facility being attacked.
If from an adjacent land zone, they need an Airbase to Scramble.

Case closed.

@generalhandgrenade Rain on the roof! It totally makes sense! I noticed you did a great job moving the phone with you the second video. These are fantastic and help us understand the some of the decisions that were made in v3. Thanks again, General!

@insanehoshi as stated the only restriction is July ‘39 for USSR to make a DOW. The thing is that their income does not automatically jump to full income unless they have been declared war against or they have rolled high enough dice in sleeping bear income rolls and/or peacetime income increases. Russia doesn’t want to fight a large war without most of its income available to purchase units!

@MAX1313 I think you misspoke a bit above. You mention V3 every time, when I think you meant V2 somewhere in there.

I’m not 100% positive on this, but I believe the East vs. West Expansion was created with V3 in mind. Meaning, some of the territory names on the map have changed from V2. So if you only have the V2 map, I think you’ll see things from the East vs. West Expansion that do not make sense.

One of the reasons I’m debating getting V3 still. Would love to have the compatibility with the Expansions, as I have a feeling V2 will fall completely to the wayside eventually, which would make sense.

@trig Yeah I think it’s very tricky as the “Once” can be interprated in both ways. If @GeneralHandGrenade could enlighten us, that would be perfect

@GeneralHandGrenade thanks GHG. I’m going to have to make that assumption as well. I have a feeling it’s a contradiction though, as they mention what you say above specifically in the “Declarations of War” section. But I’d have to go with your assumption, as there would be no point in any kind of truce being signed otherwise.

Do you have any insight to my second question about the use of CCP income?