Ksmckay (X) v Cyanight(A+18) BM3

ouch, rough round for the italians.

the new version of tripleA seems to be messing up a lot of rules. guess I should start posting them. Wouldnt let me ignore the uk sub in 98 to pick up units on italy turn, wont let subs move into hostile sea zones during NCM, for example.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 2

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 armour, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 94 Sea Zone
        1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 94 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 94 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 94 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 94 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to 97 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        1 armour moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary
        1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Poland
        3 infantry moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        6 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 armour, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary
        5 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Northern Italy
        1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
        2 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        EDIT: 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        3 armour and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs
        Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1.00
British regular : 0.67

Savegame

just a reminder, that if you choose to engage the sub in 101, you cant load any of the transports there. im sure you know the rules, i just point out things that tripleA screws up.

german inf on It tt in z97.

oops, hold please

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 2

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 armour, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 94 Sea Zone
        1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 94 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 94 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 94 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 94 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
        3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
        1 armour and 4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Poland
        3 infantry moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        6 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 armour, 2 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
        1 armour moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary
        5 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Northern Italy
        1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
        2 aaGuns, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        1 bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        EDIT: 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Romania to 97 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Germans
        3 armour and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs
        Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1.00
British regular : 0.67

Savegame

please use second file, and take note of prior posts.

@cyanight can’t end it’s movement, otherwise no effect.

Btw, in this case it doesn’t matter as I could have escorted.

@cyanight oh I thought you were referring to Italians, busy can’t explain sub in 101 right now, but I know I’m right, it’s a CM/NCM thing

you can only load land units into transports during combat movement phase if they are going to participate in combat.

Movement in this game is separated into combat movement and noncombat movement phases. During the Combat
Move phase, all movement must end in a hostile space, with a few exceptions (see below). Movement into a hostile
space counts as combat movement whether that space is occupied or not. Additional movement that doesn’t end in a
hostile space occurs during the Noncombat Move phase (phase 4).

A transport can load units while in any friendly sea zone
along its route, including the sea zone it started in. If a
transport loads land units during the Combat Move phase,
it must offload those units to attack a hostile territory as
part of an amphibious assault during the Conduct Combat
phase, or it must retreat during the sea combat step of
the amphibious assault sequence while attempting to
do so.

And then any unit that moves during CM cant move again or transports that moved in CM cant load in NCM.

So since you arent going to use any of the US land units for combat you cant load them during CM. If you stay in the sea zone then they participate in combat and so cant do NCM. If they leave during CM they cant move or load/unload during NCM.

So your only option if you want to load them is to either move them during CM empty (obviously thats not a good option). Leave them in the sea zone and conduct combat and then use them next turn. Or Ignore the sub during CM and then load/unload during NCM.

same thing for marines. Cant load a marine onto a cruiser/bb and then use the ca/bb for battle without an amphibious assault. If you arent doing an amphibious assault you have to leave the marine behind.

tripleA isnt doing my surprise strike first. If the first die is a hit, then cruiser is down before firing back.

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 unit repaired.
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
              Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
              Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
              Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
        3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
        4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
        2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
        1 armour moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Java
        1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
        1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Sumatra
        Battle in Guam
        Battle in Celebes
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Sumatra from Dutch, taking Guam from Americans, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking 42 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
        Battle in 37 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 cruiser
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 submarine in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 37 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 2 bombers and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
        Battle in Java
            Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Java, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
            Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 armour, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
        Battle in Hunan
            Japanese attack with 3 artilleries and 5 infantry
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries and 5 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/8 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries and 5 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 0/8 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
                Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries and 4 infantry in Hunan, round 4 : 2/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
            Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Shan State
            Japanese attack with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 3 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 3 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State
            Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for British: 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 fighters moved from Shan State to 41 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 6 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
        1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
        4 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        4 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to Kwangsi
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to Kwangsi
        1 battleship, 2 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 55 PUs; end with 56 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.00
Japanese regular : -5.50
UK_Pacific regular : -1.00
ANZAC regular : -0.67
British regular : -0.50

Savegame