AAZ: similar games for Axis and Allies?

@Krieghund ,

Thanks for reply. Of course I know this topic. But I thought it might be fruitful to compile all these issues that were brought up in that thread and other threads (and places like BoardGameGeek) and divide them into several subjects: combat / production / Z-specific rules / …

And then hopefully there will be an official AAZ FAQ soon.

Talking Technology here…

Air D.O.T.s:

Somebody already brought this up. This does technology imply that you may initiate (start) a combat without any land units on your side and then have that extra round of combat? Or does this technology only apply if you start combat while having land units present?

If it is the former (you can start combat with no land units on your side) then this technology seems to be rather powerful… What do others think? Any official word on this?

The placement of allied ships makes it easy for Germany to sink Home Fleet and UK can produce 4 units against Germany’s 7.

@Midnight_Reaper:

@Caesar:

So in order for me to explain the situation, you have to already understand how to play zombies and this didn’t cross my mind to ask the developers because I just encountered it now.

So here is the situation: Zombies are co existing with Japanese troops, Germany wants to attack the Zombies in Japanese territories. So when Zombies roll for their attack, Germany being the attacker can only be attacked if the Zombie rolls an “A”. What in this situation makes Japanese troopers? I don’t have an answer for this. What I told my buddy and we agreed with is that because Japan is not the aggressor, that technically makes them the defender so Zombies would have to roll a “D” to attack them. However, officially by rule, I am not sure how to actually treat this. I am 99% sure Japanese soldiers can’t attack the zombies with Germany so this is the only way I can see this working.

How would this work if the Germans were attacking into a British-held territory with Zombies in it? It would work like that, only you obviously restrict your hits to the Zombies instead of your fellow-Axis-power Japanese troops. So, from what I understand, the Zombies would roll A to hit the Germans and D to hit the Japanese. Since it’s the German turn, the Japanese troops just kind of hang out until their turn. At which point, if the Japanese attacked the Zombies in their territory with the Germans present, when the Zombies make their roll an A would hit the Japanese (who are doing the attacking at this point) and a D would hit the Germans (who are likewise hanging out while the Japanese troops do their thing).

Make sense?

-Midnight_Reaper

If you engage a territory owned by your enemy, you have to attack the territory. Fortunately because of the dice, you are also attacking zombies.

I voted indifferent because I’m still holding out hope that:

The undesirable zombies can be house ruled out.

The map is a good medium sized map (a la Revised/42SE).

The “1939 Scenario” that the WOTC rep mentioned in his interview with A&A.org a few months back is fresh/worth playing.

I’m still willing to hold out hope because the only objectively terrible A&A games are 1941 and Spring 42, the latter of which is only terrible because the small map made the game unplayable.

@Midnight_Reaper:

Seriously though, a game with a map about '42 size with rules for playing an intro version of the European War from 1939 to 1941 and main rules for playing from '41 to the end? That actually does sound intriguing to me.

This bit here is what gives me hope for the game. Especially if there’s a way to play out the whole war starting from 1939.

…Just as long as they don’t cheap out on the components (wishful thinking, I know) or make another 1941-small map…

1941 was at target on sale for $20 so I’m def. thinking yes it will be sold there,

but they end up liquidating many of these types of games (pandemic, sonar, xwing TTWG ($12 not $40!! bought 9 copies) etc.)

(which is to say if you can wait you can probably get this for $30 unless it flies off the shelf Target is pretty aggressive about liquidating games and rotating the selection)