Strange Non-combat with Russia

A friend of mine and I are arguing over the interpretation of the attack/defend rules of basic combat. In the instructions it says to roll for all units with the same attack or defend value at the same time. Does this mean if I have 10 infantry units I roll one die for all ten or do I roll for each unit individually (10 Die)?

My thought was that if you roll one die for multiple units with low attack value (infantry), it keeps their offensive value low (making battle more realistic), but rewards large numbers of infantry units by awarding many hits on a successful attack/defend roll.
It seems a bit weird that a few infantry troops could very easily take out an equal number of  tanks.

Lemme know your thoughts. Official rules first, but favorite house rules welcome.

Also bear in mind that the fighter is not lost immediately when the carrier is sunk.  It continues to fight in the air until either it is taken as a casualty or the end of the battle.

@kfgolfer:

i just dont see how Russia could “bleed Germany dry”??  russia has very little money and German has a lot!!  Germany keeps buying tanks and simply runs over russia Inf at will too quickly… Russia can only defend itself for a short time and where does the allied help come from?  a D-day invasion?  UK air raids?  I know I am a rookie at this game, but it always seems russia can’t hang on long enough to Allied help… never happens when My opponent loves buying Tanks for Germany and steemrolls over russia almost every time…

Jen has it right.

The western allies should be dropping as many units as quickly as possible into western europe (or elsewhere in europe) to make Germany fight THERE as well as with Russia.  Germany can not keep throwing units against all three allies for very long, expecially if all they buy is tanks… hence the bleeding dry of the vermach.

The only tricky move in combat and non-combat of the same unit is armor, really.  Armor may blitz into and out of combat during the combat move phase. (Assuming the territory blitzed was empty.)

Other then that, “combat” ends all movement.  (Aircraft exempted.)

When I play FTF I look at the units I am going to send into battle and then count my opponents units.  Just doing that generally gives me an idea of how the battle will turn out.  If I have any doubt about wehter or not I will accomplish my mission then I may not attack.  Most the time I know the approxiamate result of the attck based on experience.  Of course lucky rolls can change all of that.

@U-505:

I would have to say that you should be careful about advancing heavy Russian forces too far into Europe. Drawing Russian ground units away from Russia is a trap I frequently like to set with Germany. It gets really had to resist trading a bunch of advanced territories with Germany because the prospect of Russia making 30+ IPC’s a turn puts dollar signs in the Russian player’s eyes. With the Axis outnumbering Russia by 5 to 1 with air units, trading a lot of territories and ground units with Russia almost always favors the Axis, even if the unit trade is 1 for 1. No matter how much Russia makes, Japan always outproduces them by up to twice as many units and that point will get hammered home when a large number of Russian forces are aimed at Germany and their reinforcements going west dry up instantly because they are desperately trying to hold back the flood of Japanese units coming at them. Japan has a tendence to look benign one turn and the next turn be all over the map, in force, and Russia can quickly get into trouble by being too aggressive toward Germany. Especially if the eastern defensive structure is poorly maintained.

I completely agree.  I’ve used this “rope-a-dope” tactic a few times.  retreat with germany, attack with japan, and then usually around round 3-4 i counter attack with germany and squeeze russia out and hope that germany conquers russia so i can get the IPC’s.  I say thi cause usually the Allies have taken western Europe with this strategy at some point and I have to retake it.

@ncscswitch:

5 FIGs not 6.

Germany starts with 6 FIGs, one of which would be lost in Ukraine.

Right, but I was pointing out tha they could build a fighter anyway.  So, assuming they planned too, then they would have 6 fighters again instead of 7.

Thank you for the input folks!

I could not find anything either way in LHTR, and I have an old apparent House Rule from Classic that precluded such moves.

Appreciate the clarification!