We have just been playing that the first major capital that falls and stays fallen loses. Once Russia or Germany has been taken over you can pretty much call it a day. You would have to be a pretty bad player to let one of the factions rebound from a nasty country loss like that.
liquidvet,
It has been done before…
with success!!!
We have just been playing that the first major capital that falls and stays fallen loses. Once Russia or Germany has been taken over you can pretty much call it a day. You would have to be a pretty bad player to let one of the factions rebound from a nasty country loss like that.Â
Depends on if the other side is losing a capital at nearly the same time. Very often, Germany and Russia fall around the same time. So even if one falls “first”, if the other goes within a round or two, it can still be a dogfight.
Why would the germans continue into moscow if their capital is falling? It seems like a really stupid move, if you are about to take moscow it would mean that you have a lot of offensive based just a few turns away, I wouldn’t hessitate in moving around and head back for the defense.
I can understand this, if its the japanese thats taking control over moscow, but then the game is far from lost, a Japanese player having control of moscow means that Empire of the Sun is a really nasty Empire and it won’t take many turns for them to liberate the german capitol.
Regards,
Daniel Malus
@Malus:
Why would the germans continue into moscow if their capital is falling? It seems like a really stupid move, if you are about to take moscow it would mean that you have a lot of offensive based just a few turns away, I wouldn’t hessitate in moving around and head back for the defense.
I can understand this, if its the japanese thats taking control over moscow, but then the game is far from lost, a Japanese player having control of moscow means that Empire of the Sun is a really nasty Empire and it won’t take many turns for them to liberate the german capitol.
Yes, when both Germany and Russia fall it is usually Japan who takes Russia. But it is far from a given that Japan will be able to liberate Germany. Yeah, Japan is nasty, but with the US/UK holding Germany itself plus East, West, and Southern Europe they are still probably out-earning Japan.
Every situation is different…
So, every fall of a capital is different, too!
I only wanted to say that the game isn’t necessarily over when a capital is taken!
Players just have to make up for theirselfs if they still have a chance of winning tha game…
You can lose a battle, but you can still win the war.
and I think this depends on the massivity of the army capturing a capital…
We sort of just eyeball it. If a capital is taken we will play for a few more rounds. Sometimes it’s fun to play even if you know a team has lost. It’s fun to make a huge stack of battleships and pound the crap out of Japan, or UK.
@Guerrilla:
All my games are 9 pointers now for the following reasons:
1. I usually don’t have more then 4-5 Hours and a 10 VC game for a group I typically play with is like a 8-10 hour game…
2. Axis Victory and Allied Victory is usually achieved with a balanced buy in the sense that you must get a good build in order to win…
3. More fun imo…as far as different VC’s consider:
Hawaii (instead of San Fransisco)
Canberra (Instead of Calcutta)or try more VC’s:
Canberra
Hawaii
Vladivstok (Soviet Far East)
Cairo
Rio De Janerio (Brazil)
Baku (Novorbisk)GG
Isn’t Baku the capital of Azerbaijan? So wouldn’t it be located in Caucauses?
your correct… I didn’t know any “cities” that would fit it so I used Baku… If you can think of any please post them!
GG
Just stick with the most well known city in that area… Krasnoyarsk
Personally, I do not like the concept of Victory Cities. I find that strategies become designed to take a key city in order to win, even if it puts them in a precarious situation in the rest of the world.
The Avalon Hill Game, Third Reich, had a rule that if the Allies landed in Italy, there was a 1 in 3 change of Italy surrenduring all troops. The Allied player would gamble everything to attempt the invasion in hopes to get lucky on the Surrender. Of course, the loss of all of the Italian based units would cripple the Germans.
The same can happen if a team only requires one more city to win the game.
As for survival after fallen capitals, anything can happen.
If a player has the will to keep playing, then play on. Unless, of course, you wish to surrender.
we have always played until someone concedes defeat. there is no point putting a player through the agony of “rolling it out”
we have always played until someone concedes defeat. there is no point putting a player through the agony of “rolling it out”
Some people love it when they have MASSIVE armies against each other…
If one is ready to collapse? they start building inf over and over again.
So, in this case it would be possible to look at 40 infantry to take over UK… :roll: :|
I only know of such games, but never played one like that before.
We always stop when it’s getting pretty obvious :-P
So, we never play VC’s any more! We just play untill someone resigns.
once the initiative has clearly passed someone will buckle. At that point, admit you have lost/won, shake and hands and make plans for a future game.
the victory cities, i think are a lack of play testing by the creators.
I don’t know about that, I think it was a way to make the victory conditions more acheaveable to the Axis.
you should be able to size up the board and realize you have lost. once your chance has passed you are painfully “rolling out.”
you should be able to size up the board and realize you have lost. once your chance has passed you are painfully “rolling out.”
yep, that’s what I’m thinking, too.
the trouble is: some people like to see this “rolling out”
When I play the cpu on triplea, i usually play a 12 city game, just cause its fun, and it dosen’t take as long. Besides a Japan that makes more that 100 ipc a turn is just a ton of fun. 2 battleships a turn baby. Just because I can!
When I play the cpu on triplea, i usually play a 12 city game, just cause its fun, and it dosen’t take as long. Besides a Japan that makes more that 100 ipc a turn is just a ton of fun. 2 battleships a turn baby. Just because I can!Â
that’s true…
the cpu doesn’t have the problem of looking at your massive buys, while he is in agony about the very few and little moves he can do next.
I love it, too :-P
When i play face to face, my oponets are intelegent enough to know when they have lost. We usually say we are playing to 10 cities (the point of no return for most games) but we rarely get there. There is usually some battle that so changes the face of the game that everyone knows who won and lost. It’s a bit more like the victory conditions in real war anyway. You keep fighting till someone wants to quit.
