Nov24th 1863: Confederate hopes dashed in Tennessee.

@wittmann:

Sounds great. Thanks for the write up. I am sorry you did not get to see Shiloh, but understand you had little time.

Yes, I was thinking about it as we were in the area, but we weren’t really prepared for a longer excursion otherwise I certainly would have taken us there.

I could write a bit more in depth, but I don’t think it would be very interesting to others. I would definitely recommend stopping in either place (Nashville or Memphis), especially for people from other countries. Country music, southern food and Elvis Presley are some of the most recognizably American things out there and I am sure foreigners would enjoy it. In fact, we saw a couple from Australia in Nashville and at Graceland there were people from all over the world. It was pretty cool.

@Gargantua:

Considered the population was sub 100; and assuming 50% female and 50% male.  They sent 10% of their citizens off to the war effort!

That’s a big deal!

Hey, NYC was ready to secede if circumstances changed, it was home to opportunistic copperheads wanting to trade with the CSA and angry immigrants resenting the draft. Manhattan, Staten Island and Long Island would have formed “tri-isle” city.

@Cromwell_Dude:

North Carolina and Virginia continue to clash and debate over who got the farthest at Gettysburg. It’s an interesting discussion, but I am more currently concerned about North Carolina freeing itself of foreign troops than who got the farthest at Gettysburg. Since I am a native North Carolinian, I do take a little pride in the subject.

The Gettysburg movie portrayed what is known as the Virginian school. The North Carolina story was largely left out, though that State lost the most troops at Gettysburg. Almost half and some say maybe more than half of Longstreet’s Assault on the 3rd day at Gettysburg were North Carolinians.

There are two “farthest to the front” monuments on Cemetery Ridge. One for the Virginians and one for the North Carolinians. The North Carolina Monument is located to the upper left of Armistead’s monument. Who got the farthest? Why does it matter? I leave those questions for the audience to discuss.

Those who know me on the internet world know I don’t post dissertations. I post brief thoughts and allow others to discover roads of truth. I’m not on here to be any one’s professor. Consider this post just a surface inquiry upon the subject. Feel free to investigate more on the subject. I am attaching a pic of the North Carolina Monument at Gettysburg that honors NC’s claim as the State farthest to the front on the 3rd day. The men who reached this point were led by CSA General Isaac Trimble.

Again, thank you Cromwell.

Seeing Hooker was never going to take the offensive, Lee pulled two more Divisions, those of South Carolinian RH Anderson and Georgian Lafayette McLaws from in front of Hooker and led them himself against Sedgwick in conjunction with Jubal Early. It was to be a day of frustration for Lee, as he could not prod McLaws forward and get the 3 division attack going. Sedgwick withdrew over Banks’ Ford when he lost Marye’s Heights to Early.(Early had a great battle.)
This was the cue for Hooker to call the campaign over and he withdrew over US Ford on the 5th. Casualties were high for the four day battle: 13000 for Lee and 17000 for Hooker. Lee’s proportion was too high, considering he only had 60000 to start with.
Lee and the South had bettered an army twice the size of their own and given Virginia breathing space. Lee’s next move, as it had been in 62, after a victory, was to move North.
Gettysburg awaited.
Jackson would never again be Lee’s “right arm”’ as he passed away on the 10th from complications from his amputation.
His last words were: let us cross over the river and rest in the shade of the trees.

Thank you Marc: he did live in France for a long time, but spent the last 5 years in Italy, dying in Rome.
Thank you for correcting me.

Hi Worsham. I know what I would have done, but Jeff Davis was West Point aristocracy, so would not have done any thing as radical.
I think after failing to take Knoxville, Longstreet was no longer flavour of the month, so he who helped win Chickamauga would have to be discounted. He was needed with his Eadtern Corps to save the day in the Wilderness. He was much missed and needed back there.
Cleburne would have been an excellent anti establishment choice. He had the necessary respect within his own corps, but he would have had to jump two ranks. I would have given the job to him. He would have allieviated the manpower problem by arming the slaves too. (Not sure Forrest would have stoic for that.)
Forrest too would have done a great job, but again he was far too junior in rank. He would have required a staff that he respected and who could explain logistics to him.(He would have understood, given his civilian background, I think.) He would probably have had to duel half the generals though! I think I would leave him as a Cavalry commander, but promote him to its head, above Wheeler.

Two Corps if Jackson is alive, three without Jackson.

I know of the Underground Railroad Museum in Cincinnati.

I recently saw a tv news bit about a Slavery Museum…
coulda been the Cincy one, but on one wall was the quote…

“If not us, who?  If not now, when?”
I do not believe it was attributed to Ronald Reagan(see my sig below.)