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@nubnumber1 just like a fighter unit in A&A is meant to represent many aircraft,think of a destroyer unit representing a group (flotilla I think is the term) of destroyers.Military history has many examples of small,yet determined, forces delaying the progress of larger forces. eg 101st airborne in Bastogne dec 1944

@panther Thank you very much Panther. This answered my question. Now I’ll have to roll the bones and see what happens…

@Flying-Tigerz, @Panther
Thank you both for the fast response. Too bad you don’t work at the local DMV.

I moved in with 2 carrier 2 dd bship cruiser 4 fighter.

i used the bship from pacific and cruiser. union africa dd.

after that was easy to get the rest. dd carrier fig. dd carrier fig. dd carrier fig.  
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also you can sink italy no problem… your air reaches everywhere. :D

also if usa has a small atlantic fleet, may as well chuck it into 97 after merging the two. usually I have something for atlantic… I don’t buy transports with usa anymore in the atlantic. It is all about convoy disruption combined with +15-+19 NO money for russia. getting air into russia… bombers are nice. with bombers you can bomb all the ics, hit germany mech/tanks, pretty much just cheese and be lame is what I do.

I mean this is not aa50 where the most optimal strategy is to double stack uk and usa on france or northwestern europe. it don’t really work out for allies most of the time ESPECIALLY IN LOW LUCK GAMES. There is no way you can get a foothold in time.

Shut em down in 97 is much more realistic followed up with usa air into russia. +15-19 NO for russia from africa. pacific eventually you park in japan to convoy disrupt or trade naval/take islands back in dutch.

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check it out if you have enough naval to drop in normandy, those could instead be in 97 doing -10 a round no transports necessary.

@knp7765:

Also, the UK could actually declare war on Japan UK 1, which would result in them convoy raiding Siam for -1 IPC on Japan’s next turn. However, UK declaring war would not bring USA into the conflict and would allow Japan many more possibilities against UK and ANZAC before the US could help them. Not a good idea just to take 1 IPC from Japan.

Also, in Alpha3 it’s a roll of a dice, so it’s possible that the battleship will roll above a 3 and not even deduct the value of Siam (1).

@Gargantua:

you seemed to have forgotten that his subs could pass through the strait of Gibraltar without owning Gibraltar

I didn’t forget the rule, I was wholly unaware of it’s exsistence.  I believe it was an Alpha addition.  Yes a mistake.   And no you didn’t wipe the fleet, you wholly damaged it,  And you still failed to control gibraltar, or keep a significant amount of subs in the med.

And it certainly didn’t stop the Axis from winning that game either, so yea, the strategy is BAD.

You should have been building men and transports instead of Subs.

The straits rule is clearly stated in the manual, there is even an example that mentions Gibraltar.

For the record; that was the F2F game in Aldergrove just prior to Xmas not the game in this post. I (Idi Amin) was playing the UK not the USA. You (Gargantua) played Germany and Italy. It was the USA player (the host and a rookie) who completely decimated your spiffy Italian fleet East of Gibraltar. Control of Gibraltar is a moot point when attacking with sub fleets into the Med.

Axis victory you say?? Wow what game were you playing in?!? And as far as an Axis victory goes….I recall NO Sealion, Japan having NO navy AND air force, China HUGE, ANZAC/India controlling ALL the money islands, Britain building tanks in South Africa, Russia holding Norway and Finland and Italy with NO FLEET. If you call that was an Axis victory will you please give me a ride in your invisible helicopter sometime?

One needs to be prepared for every outcome.  That’s all I am saying.

For simplicity, the game doesn’t deal with the Vichy government.  All French units are considered to be Free French.