IC Question

Locke888

Some people like simple some like complex….some like logic some like regimented rules

I agree with you…some are now calling it a National objective…I read it as non aggression pact in a political situation and that action is AGGRESSION. What I do know is I am not wrong…nor are people who agree with this move…this rule is simply left to interpretation…that’s all there is to it

No coincidence that there are so many house rules…why are they there? Because it is a great game and it has flaws and mistakes and rules that are not clear. I bet you there is not a player who plays this game who has not sat there and looked at a rule to go from section to section to get a clarification for at least 10 minutes during a game.

As for logic…if you are playing strategists…throw that out of the window…if you are playing historical folks…you can get somewhere…and then there is the in between and there you negotiate

@Gargantua:

The rulebook is half clear.  It states that all combat moves must end in combat on Page #13
Sea units that will be participating in an amphibious
assault from a friendly sea zone, as well as sea and/or
air units that may be needed to support it in the case that
defending air units are scrambled (see �Scramble,� page16).

My interpretation of that is scramble or no scramble, or even no airbase, I can move whatever I want in the combat phase to a friendly seazone to support that invasion.

Your interpretation is incorrect.  You may only move units that will participate in or support the amphibious assault into a friendly sea zone.  Air and sea units that will participate in the assault include transports offloading land units, battleships and/or cruisers bombarding, and possibly a warship to escort the transports (if needed because of an enemy sub that will be ignored - bombarding battleships and/or cruisers can fulfill this role).  Supporting units can include any type of air or sea unit desired, but can only be moved there if necessary due to the possibility of a defending scramble - there being both an operative enemy air base and eligible air units present.

As others have pointed out, the same criteria apply when determining whether units beginning the turn in the sea zone may move out of it during combat movement.  Such units restricted from moving out in noncombat movement are those that were actually involved in combat and transports that offloaded.

I have started buying an IC in Manchuria on J1, along with 2 transports.  I find it so valuable in getting China eliminated and gone from the game.  I then build 2 mechs and a tank on J2.  They can reach anywhere in China on J4, except Sikang.  Life is good for Japan if the Chinese are bottled up in western Tibet!

It is also nice to be able to build transports in SZ19 so that they are out of range from the Hawaiian fleet.

ChocolatePancake is perfectly right.

See Pacific 2nd Ed. rulebook, top of page 9:

@rulebook:

These two powers [UK and ANZAC]
also have an arrangement with the
Dutch government in exile (Holland having been captured
by Germany) and have taken guardianship of the Dutch
territories in the Pacific. As a result, they are free to move
units into these territories as a noncombat movement at any
time, as long as they have not yet been captured by Japan.
They may actually take control of them (gaining their IPC
income) by moving land units into them. Additionally, the
United Kingdom and ANZAC consider attacks against any
Dutch territories to be acts of war against them directly.
Once a Dutch territory has been captured by Japan,
however, it may be captured and controlled by any power.

@coolrunner:

@soulfein:

@Gargantua:

If you capture a naval base on your turn, and you have ships adjacent to it that haven’t moved.�  During NCM do they recieve the boost?

nope, to able to get move bonus, u have to control it at the start of your turn.

The rules does not say anything about that… In my team the ships get a boost. What does Larry say about this

It is in the rules.
@rulebook:

If a territory is captured, any facilities there are also captured. The capturing player can use them on the turn after they 
are captured.

@Young:

I think the addition of bases are Genius, they are 2 of the most simplistic units in the game, but they add so much. By far the most identifiable element that separates global from the others.

That’s true, bases are great!
Of course they work so fine because of the big sized map, Spring 42 with bases would be ridiculous :)

Submarines may go through the Gibraltar strait regardless of who controls Gibraltar. This is the only exception. Just in case you didnt know.

Your sub would have to hit his ship/ships for it to matter.

Because if you submerge that does nothing.