Attack question

Regarding question 1, as Frimmel said, it’s important to not bring any baggage from other A&A games into the “battle” games, as their mechanics are very different. It would be inadvisable to point out those differences in the Rulebook, though, as that would simply confuse readers who have never played a strategic-level A&A game. It’s best for experienced A&A players to simply look at these games with a fresh eye, and it probably would have been good for the Rulebook’s author to note this in the introduction.

Regarding question 2, the reason why there is only one box on the Supplies combat strip is that, unlike with the combat units, there is no fixed stacking limit for Supplies. The combat units’ combat strips can have a fixed number of boxes due to their stacking limits, but the number of Supply tokens that can be in a hex is theoretically unlimited. Perhaps having an image of multiple tokens on the strip would reinforce the idea that multiple tokens may be hit, but the rules do clearly state so.

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@Whackamatt

Love Battle of the Bulge it was my first induction into axis and allies, moving into 1942 and 1940 - Shame it gets such a slating.

I love this game. I think the reasons for the slating are two fold.

It is radically different than the other A&A games, so if you’ve been playing them for awhile, it takes a LOT of time to “unlearn” how pieces move and act from all the prior games. Even strategic tendencies as the Allies have to be unlearned.

The rules were difficult to comprehend. Perhaps it was this way for me back when I first learned A&A 30+ years ago, but each variation of A&A since is only the addition of a couple of new pieces and a few new rules, so they were easier to unbox and play. That and some of the critical rules aren’t repeated where I feel they should be, such as the movement rule I had to discover about towns…it wasn’t mentioned again under the movement section where you think it should be.

I think those two combined have led to me playing the game incorrectly at least 5 times. I’ve only played it once where I think I played it correctly.

i still love to play it, I just hope I’ll reach a point where I remember all the rules. It certainly sucks to spend several hours setting up and playing the game only to find you’ve been doing it all wrong about truck movements, zone of control, blitzing, or movement stopping incorrectly, to name several of the “Oh, @#$%! We’ve been doing it wrong the whole game!”
moments.

@Anzac:

Hey guys started playing BOTB again… When attacking can you attack as many times as you like. For example when usa has made all attacks you pass the inititive to the german player. After germany has done all attacks can you then attack again with usa? And then continue with germany again. Just bit confused about what it says in the rule book… Thanks guys

The player with initiative gets to declare and perform the first attack. Then the other player may declare and perform an attack. The option then passes back to the player with initiative. When both players pass consecutively you move on to the next phase. Each hex may only be activated for attacks once. All of your hexes may attack if you have sufficient supplies. On the first turn only Germany may perform attacks. (See Phase 2 beginning on page 14 of the rulebook: http://www.axisandallies.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Axis-Allies-Battle-of-the-Bulge.pdf)

All of these attacks make up a single turn of attacks.

DO NOT bring rules baggage from other games into BOTB to resolve any confusion or questions you have. You will be incorrect.  :-)

@frimmel:

OOB rules. For the greater part house rules do not exist in my dojo.

Thats too bad! ILs map really expands on the game. Besides the larger map and the greater scope of the game, he has added the mech. infantry for both sides and tiger tanks for the Germs.

Wow, thanks for the quick reply :-D I was also wondering, what can the axis do to counter the allies supperior air force and number of trucks?

@Krieghund:

@Fishmoto37:

After a truck stops in an enemy ZOC, how and when can it be released for further movement?

If the enemy units are pushed back or eliminated so that the Truck is no longer in the ZoC, the Truck can move.  Also, the Truck can move one hex out of the ZoC in the Movement part of the Movement & Reinforcement phase, then move off the board in the next turn, assuming it is still out of the ZoC at that time.

@Fishmoto37:

When combat units are retreated can they be moved back one hex to attack if they pay one supply token to move and one more to attack? Or is this only an option for tanks? (Assuming these units have not attacked previously?)

Units, including Tanks, may only move in the Movement & Reinforcement phase (other than retreating, of course), so if a unit is retreated it may not attack in the same turn.

Thanks so much Krieg. Those were the only two issues I had with this game other than I would like to see a larger map. Thanks again.

Welcome, KikaSmile!

The only thing that I know of that you can do is edit the original post and change the Message Icon that appears next to the thread, but I don’t know how much success you’d have trying to get people to do it consistently.

:-D Thanks again!  :lol: