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  • Frimmel, what happens when two college teams have to share a national championship like Nebraska and Michigan did in the late 90s? Was that fair to either team? A playoff would have decided 1 national champion with the two best teams playing for the title. Maybe each conference can have 2 conference champions as well for fairness? Why even play? If a team only plays cupcakes and makes it to the playoffs and not good in the first place then that team will be weeded out during the process. What ever happened to the best teams going at it and deciding on the field who the champion is instead of a computer? College football is the only sport that I know of that does not have some sort of playoff system. Like I said before, just give all the players a trophy at the end of the season so nobody will have their feelings hurt and all will be a champ.


  • I have the solution: have every conference have a championship game on a certain weekend that would serve as round one of a playoff. The winners move on.


  • @ABWorsham:

    I have the solution: have every conference have a championship game on a certain weekend that would serve as round one of a playoff. The winners move on.

    Sounds good to me.

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    But why do we need a playoff system when the system we have now works very well.

    99% of the time the two best teams do play for the National championship… and it continues down from there. Your regular season is your playoff. Cupcake games aside, one slip-up can be the end for a high ranked team. And there are still some teams which will play a conference championship game, so they will have to duke it out with a relative power.

    It is my opinion that teams rarely have a Cupcake season… they may have games here and there, but most teams (who matter) still have genuine challenges to overcome. Boise St. for example has pretty easy season, Oregon may be their only challenge, yet they are ranked number 3. Ohio State almost never has a pushover season. The Big 10 may not have as many of the powerhouse teams as it used to but programs like Penn State and Iowa are not pushovers. Plus OSU typically plays one big out of conference game a year.

    My point is that our current system works. Ideally, the best teams would play each other every year for the National Championship and the lower bowls every year, but that doesn’t always happen. Most of the time, however, the game s work out just fine.

    The Bowl Championship Series is the hallmark of College ball. I for one don’t want to watch playoffs every year. I want the rankings to mean something and I want the experience of watching all the different level bowl games. If I wanted a playoff I’d watch NFL … which I don’t really get into.


  • @LHoffman:

    But why do we need a playoff system when the system we have now works very well.

    When 2 teams share a championship the system does not work fine. College football is the only sport that doesn’t have a playoff system and the regular season is not a playoff time. We will have to agree to disagree on the topic.

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    @skinny1:

    @LHoffman:

    But why do we need a playoff system when the system we have now works very well.

    When 2 teams share a championship the system does not work fine. College football is the only sport that doesn’t have a playoff system and the regular season is not a playoff time. We will have to agree to disagree on the topic.

    We will have to agree to disagree. But when else has this tie for the Title occurred? What were the circumstances? I do not see how this can even happen under today’s BCS system. Then again, I only know what I have absorbed through watching and listening.


  • @LHoffman:

    @skinny1:

    @LHoffman:

    But why do we need a playoff system when the system we have now works very well.

    When 2 teams share a championship the system does not work fine. College football is the only sport that doesn’t have a playoff system and the regular season is not a playoff time. We will have to agree to disagree on the topic.

    We will have to agree to disagree. But when else has this tie for the Title occurred? What were the circumstances? I do not see how this can even happen under today’s BCS system. Then again, I only know what I have absorbed through watching and listening.

    I do not know if it has happened since then but once was enough. If the BCS has fixed it then that is good. Another thing though a few years ago Nebraska got into the championship game through the backdoor and played Miami? in the Rose Bowl. That ended up being a yawn and could have been a much better game if Oregon would have been in Nebraska’s place. I live in Nebraska and watch the Huskers and it is the only college team that I watch, but that Rose Bowl game was embarrassing and if there was a playoff Nebraska probably would not have made it to that game. Another example is when Nebraska won 2 championships then missed a year and won again the 4th year. Two games in that 3rd season kept Nebraska from playing for the championship. One of the games was the conference championship. I know people will say NU was not a good team that year and should not have played for the title but if you look at the scores of the games that season NU rolled all over the teams before and after the loss to Arizona State then NU lost to Texas in the conference championship game. The 3 winning seasons are 1994, 1995, and 1997.


  • That 2001 Nebraska was a pretty good team.

    They just went up against a Miami team of that had a ridiculous number of future NFL All-Pro players (38 Draft picks on that team, 17 First Round picks)

    Anyone would look bad against a team like that.


  • @frimmel:

    Playoffs, schmayoffs. The argument for playoffs in college football to me sort of sounds like arguing to put a wang on Jessica Biel because she isn’t attractive to gay dudes.

    Hahaha, nice!  Wish I could applaud you for that one.


  • Every March the country stops and enjoys college basketball playoffs, it’s amazing. Why can’t we have a college football playoff system? The Television money for a playoff system would be vast.

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    @ABWorsham:

    Every March the country stops and enjoys college basketball playoffs, it’s amazing. Why can’t we have a college football playoff system? The Television money for a playoff system would be vast.

    I am under an obvious assumption that TV money for bowl games is pretty vast too.


  • @LHoffman:

    @ABWorsham:

    Every March the country stops and enjoys college basketball playoffs, it’s amazing. Why can’t we have a college football playoff system? The Television money for a playoff system would be vast.

    I am under an obvious assumption that TV money for bowl games is pretty vast too.

    The larger bowls are great. But the are many ‘junk games bowls’.

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    @ABWorsham:

    @LHoffman:

    I am under an obvious assumption that TV money for bowl games is pretty vast too.

    The larger bowls are great. But the are many ‘junk games bowls’.

    Yeah there are… but I don’t really mind that. I mean to me … bowl games are what college football is. Yeah it might draw a bit more Excitement if there was a big sweeping playoff … but that has never been what college football is about. It might work, just as bowl games work, but I for one don’t want things to change.


  • :-o Wow. So any of you guys think Boise still deserves a shot at the title?

    That’s one of the top three opponents on Boise’s schedule getting beat by a team from the lower division (like Appy State beating TSUN.)


  • @frimmel:

    :-o Wow. So any of you guys think Boise still deserves a shot at the title?

    That’s one of the top three opponents on Boise’s schedule getting beat by a team from the lower division (like Appy State beating TSUN.)

    You are obsessed with Boise. Nobody said anything about Boise but you. What some are saying is that a playoff system would be better than all the bowls picked by computers. Anything can happen on any given Saturday. Move to Boise if that will make you happy.


  • :? The bowls aren’t picked by computers. Computer rankings are a component but not the entirety of the BCS formula. An average of computer rankings is taken and most of those typically incorporate some sort of human vote. The human voters have a very large say. I’d point to 2007 and LSU-OSU. The voters engineered the match-up they wanted. The non-BCS bowls typically have contracts with a couple of leagues to get their X place finisher.


  • @frimmel:

    :? The bowls aren’t picked by computers. Computer rankings are a component but not the entirety of the BCS formula. An average of computer rankings is taken and most of those typically incorporate some sort of human vote. The human voters have a very large say. I’d point to 2007 and LSU-OSU. The voters engineered the match-up they wanted. The non-BCS bowls typically have contracts with a couple of leagues to get their X place finisher.

    Any vote can be bought so that is not a fair system to use for 2 teams to play for a national championship. Since there is a ranking of the top 25 then that should be used to set up the playoffs. When it is time for the playoff the 25th team would be eliminated then just like the professional league and college basketball, seeds would be established and teams would play. The 2 teams left standing would go to the national championship game. Seeds would be determined by records and schedules during the season. Every team would have to step it up, even Boise, if they want to play for the championship. This would eliminate the voting and computers picking who goes to what bowl game. Playoffs or a series like the CWS or March Madness all seem to work fine without having a lot of other little “bowl” games. What I don’t understand is why you are against the 2 best teams playing for the title like any other system does? It has nothing to do with the NFL. It is about making sure every team has a shot. If a team loses then they go home. Why is college football so special that it has to have something completely different than all other sports?


  • @skinny1:

    @frimmel:

    :-o Wow. So any of you guys think Boise still deserves a shot at the title?

    That’s one of the top three opponents on Boise’s schedule getting beat by a team from the lower division (like Appy State beating TSUN.)

    You are obsessed with Boise. Nobody said anything about Boise but you. What some are saying is that a playoff system would be better than all the bowls picked by computers. Anything can happen on any given Saturday. Move to Boise if that will make you happy.

    I like Boise, the school is great for college football. …. and I hope they sit undeated at the end of the season with everyone else with one loss.


  • In what playoff system do the two best teams always play for the title? Were the Giants really the best team when they beat the Patriots? Yes they were better than the Patriots – that day – but aside from that? Doesn’t seem fair that the Patriots had to beat the Giants twice but the Giants had to beat the Patriots only once to be champions.

    I don’t want to see that in College Football where every game counts for everybody even one against a scrub FCS opponent like James Madison.

    Look I understand your point which I take to be wanting things “settled on the field.” And I’m sure at some level it doesn’t look like college football settles things on the field. But in my book college football does settle things on the field. They just do it differently.


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