Inherent Problem With Sealion

@Errjee:

I got hit last week by a sea lion on G2. And lost…famously in fact.
On G1 I lost all of my fleet with exception of my med cruiser and atlantic units, which are needed to block the Eastern Gibraltar lane (preventing the Eye-Ties to go for Gibraltar which I would do as Italian player till the US-Cavalry comes storming in…)
G1 my opponent bought like 4 or 5 transports and some artillery, and as i decided to put a minor force in scotland (dunno why i thought it important at that time (scared for a threat to Iceland and Canada I think to delay my GI´s and Cavalry) but whatever, my 9 INF which i placed in Britain were not enough to repel the coastal bombardment with 8 land units and the combined strengt of the German Luftwaffe. Those airplanes are doing a lot of damage to ur units and the Germans just have more of them than the Brits. So next time I see the German player build an invasion fleet, I will throw 9 INF and everything I can get into London. Which may or may not be enough. Just doing the math, it is touch and go if the German player is dedicated, and if u throw lousy the German player may even break-even on the IPC´s, sail back on G3 to Russia and attack there on G4 (England-invasion troups in the Baltics and the troops that swept through the Balkans going for the southern INvasion route)

Which brings me to the last point… why would a german player want to buy a carrier on turn 1…? cant find a reason. built the thing with some tin cans after taking England ^^

The carrier is for sufficient protection for the transport fleet, especially OOB (no scrambling). Without it, UK can come and take out all the transporters, and be safe for Sealions.
It can also make a difference, serving for a landing place for 2 planes, giving more options for Sealion.
About Canada… you didn’t need to worry about that, really. It is annoying, but it shouldn’t distract you from the main goal: keeping London.
USA will (and must) take care of this. If London still falls, those Canadian territories will become American. If London doesn’t fall, those are German units that have not been fighting against London or Russia. Also fleet that goes to Canada won’t be back soon.

The only problem could be if Japan joins with a lot of air force in order to hit the USA. But since this is Europe… :D

That’s right,

They all blow chunks, because they use the 2 letter system.  The sheer lunacy of the system restricts their strategic potential.

I’ve beaten BadSpell, Gamerman, Working on Blitz now…  .

Certainly haven’t lost to any of the above.  And I kicked your a s s too.

It’s the way 2 letter players think - two dementional, and lazy. Without forethought, poise, or consistency.  It’s just not good enough.  True Axis and Allies players use the 3 letter - all encompassing system - so that any and ALL can understand, and see thier might in the open.

My challenge goes out to ALL who dare to oppose my view, especially those you have name and as I said, I’d wager my game on it.  My 3 vs your 2.  They are too cowardly to accept. (Save Blitz who is doomed!)

Axis and Allies is for everyone, a community, our games are public for every person to view and understand.  Not restricted for the pomp few who live by an archaic and unprogressed system.

Might as well use numbers instead of the 2L system if you don’t agree,  1, 2, 3X 10 to territory 22 vs 2x4, 1, 3, 4x7  Wow awesome hey?

Can you break off a couple infantry and artillery to capture all the other Russian territory?  Then he has to come out and fight.  If you have Leningrad and Stalingrad you’re doing pretty good.  If you get enough of his territory you may be able to keep him bottled up for quite a small investment.

@questioneer:

I want to try this next as Axis.

1.) Do G3 or G4 Sealion

2.) J1, J2, J3- build up in Japanese seazone for a largescale Alaskan invasion.

3.) Pull off Sealion and Alaskan invasion in the same round

4.) With Japan pressing into Canada and threaten WUS and keep shucking troops over to Alaska.

With Japan doing a KAF, it may distract US financially enough to have to divert a good amount of cash and units into the Pacific theatre, buying the time Germany, Italy needs to sack Moscow in few rounds.

Don’t forget this is Europe ;)

I was the Allies and my Father-in-law was axis. He pulls off sealion on his 3rd turn I think. I was not seeing it as a real threat like I should have. Nice move, he held it for the entire game(9 rounds). I never took it back from him and I defeated him with only Russia and USA. He is not the greatest player but he is not that bad. I consider myself good but not great. This is a tough game for the axis to win.

He held UK all game?  He took away from the Allies $20 - $30 a turn for all that time and still lost?  Imagine how bad it would have been for him had the UK been in the game spending that money all along - right next door … .

I’m as gentlemanly as they come, but I’d check-raise my Grandmother if she sat at a poker table with me.

@jim010:

[You can’t block the G3 London attack.

If you get luck and survive with some UK ships, then you could stand in front of the Germans.  But I doubt it would prevent the Germans from pushing through - and that scenario wil not be the norm.  Likely you won’t have any ships in range except for the Gibraltar fleet.
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Oh no? It happened in the game I played last night. Germany got crappy dice rolling and the UK player took a bunch of risks, managed to take down the German AirForce. That really changed the game and made it pretty much impossible for Germany to invade England. Amazing though Germany managed to sneak a fleet across into Mexico and distracted America for another 2 turns defending itself. It was decided after bad rolling in Russia that the allies would win out even with Amercia distracted and the game was called an allied victory.

Man I cannot wait to try these gambits out! Too bad I’m gonna be knee deep in homework and studying by the time I get the game (school starts 8/19 for me).