Italy

@WILD:

Yea he was talking about just sz 95 (Italian bb,cr, tpt). UK goes before Italy, so you can hit them before they merge their fleet or build an AB for protection (if you can scramble w/two islands in one sz). UK brings cr, dd, tac, you can also get a ftr in from Alex, or England. You don’t have to take the carrier in if you don’t want to, it could go to sz 93 to meet up w/French to land surviving planes (or fly over one from England non comb). It would still be risky for UK, but Italy will have a hard time if it loses the backbone for its fleet plus the tpt.

I think Z95 is more than 5 spaces from England. Also, they may be dead after G1

@calvinhobbesliker:

I think Z95 is more than 5 spaces from England. Also, they may be dead after G1

No you fly over France from London (or use the Alex ftr). You have to bring in the carrier in non combat if your London ftr survives, unless you take it as a casualty. I haven’t really looked at the German set-up, is a sea lion possible G1?

@WILD:

@calvinhobbesliker:

I think Z95 is more than 5 spaces from England. Also, they may be dead after G1

No you fly over France from London (or use the Alex ftr). You have to bring in the carrier in non combat if your London ftr survives, unless you take it as a casualty. I haven’t really looked at the German set-up, is a sea lion possible G1?

I meant using 7 planes on West Ger to attack England. The land units can take Paris with a 95% chance

Yea I can see Germany just trying to clear off the RAF w/just one inf on England (and AA gun) good call. If they do that though they wouldn’t be taking out as much of The Royal Navy though.

Edit: W Germ has 2 ftrs and 3 tacs, but there are others that can make it to London. The ftr on Holl, and the Germ Bmr making it 7 planes like you said.

@WILD:

@calvinhobbesliker:

I think Z95 is more than 5 spaces from England. Also, they may be dead after G1

No you fly over France from London (or use the Alex ftr). You have to bring in the carrier in non combat if your London ftr survives, unless you take it as a casualty. I haven’t really looked at the German set-up, is a sea lion possible G1?

Theoretically yes, but its tough.  Germany needs to clear the CA from SZ112 and then either the DD & BB in SZ110 or the CA/BB combo in SZ111.  The more I look at it, a Scotland landing would be the best bet for a Sea Lion.  Soctland itself is empty, and attacking SZ111 means there’s no ASW to block your wolf pack from sinking the fleet there.  Use the Luftwaffe to take out the RAF, then all the Brits have is that lone infantry in London to deal with a Sea Lion landing up north…

@ll:

@WILD:

@calvinhobbesliker:

I think Z95 is more than 5 spaces from England. Also, they may be dead after G1

No you fly over France from London (or use the Alex ftr). You have to bring in the carrier in non combat if your London ftr survives, unless you take it as a casualty. I haven’t really looked at the German set-up, is a sea lion possible G1?

Theoretically yes, but its tough.  Germany needs to clear the CA from SZ112 and then either the DD & BB in SZ110 or the CA/BB combo in SZ111.  The more I look at it, a Scotland landing would be the best bet for a Sea Lion.  Soctland itself is empty, and attacking SZ111 means there’s no ASW to block your wolf pack from sinking the fleet there.  Use the Luftwaffe to take out the RAF, then all the Brits have is that lone infantry in London to deal with a Sea Lion landing up north…

G1 can’t land since there are blocks. By G2, there may be 10-11 inf in London. Remember that there is a French inf there too. Also, if Germany goes for Sealion, I won’t attack the It fleet

There is also a French CA in sz112 to accompany the UK CA. I agree with Calvin, with the blockers you can’t get do a G1 Sea Lion, and UK will be ready G2 if/when you clear the path.

@calvinhobbesliker:

@ll:

@WILD:

@calvinhobbesliker:

I think Z95 is more than 5 spaces from England. Also, they may be dead after G1

No you fly over France from London (or use the Alex ftr). You have to bring in the carrier in non combat if your London ftr survives, unless you take it as a casualty. I haven’t really looked at the German set-up, is a sea lion possible G1?

Theoretically yes, but its tough.  Germany needs to clear the CA from SZ112 and then either the DD & BB in SZ110 or the CA/BB combo in SZ111.  The more I look at it, a Scotland landing would be the best bet for a Sea Lion.  Soctland itself is empty, and attacking SZ111 means there’s no ASW to block your wolf pack from sinking the fleet there.  Use the Luftwaffe to take out the RAF, then all the Brits have is that lone infantry in London to deal with a Sea Lion landing up north…

G1 can’t land since there are blocks. By G2, there may be 10-11 inf in London. Remember that there is a French inf there too. Also, if Germany goes for Sealion, I won’t attack the It fleet

Actually there is a chance for a G1 landing if you’re brave.  There UK& French CAs in SZ112 and a UK CA/BB in SZ111.  The German fleet (1 CA + BB) can deal with the SZ112 Cruiser.  The SZ111 fleet is trickier- you’ve got a Sub in SZs 124 and 118 and I’d add the Bomber in Germany and possibly the fighter in Norway.  Those should be able to get rid of the UK fleet, leaving the way open for your lone transport from SZ 113 carrying 2 Infantry to hit Scotland.  It’s a risk… but if it pays off… you seriously endanger UK.

Umm, you can’t do that. The transport can’t go through the DD/French CC and it can’t wait until combat is over to move and do another combat

Dammit… now I feel like an ass… my group never abided by the combat moves all at once rule… we did them one by one, it made the game a bit more dynamic.

@ll:

Dammit… now I feel like an a**… my group never abided by the combat moves all at once rule… we did them one by one, it made the game a bit more dynamic.

Cheater cheater pumpkin eater  :evil:

@Almano:

@Mysterious:

Italy goes first

UK goes first

OK, I know for a fact this is already somewhere on the forums, as I have seen it before, but I’ve completely forgotten. What’s the turn order?

@hewhoisnickel:

@Almano:

@Mysterious:

Italy goes first

UK goes first

OK, I know for a fact this is already somewhere on the forums, as I have seen it before, but I’ve completely forgotten. What’s the turn order?

I think it’s Germany, Russia, Britain, US, Italy, France

Order of Play

1. Germany
  2. Soviet Union
  3. United Kingdom
  4. Italy
  5. United States
  6. France

From djensens preview

@ll:

Dammit… now I feel like an a**… my group never abided by the combat moves all at once rule… we did them one by one, it made the game a bit more dynamic.

If you play like that in aae40 a G1 sea lion is the way to go, i would say it would have 80 % chanse of sucsess. The UK will maybe take it back from Canada but you will be 35 ipc richer and the UK wont be able to build anything for a round. Germany would build for around 95 in G2 when they get to spend everything they looted from Paris and London in turn one.

@WILD:

Order of Play

1. Germany
   2. Soviet Union
   3. United Kingdom
   4. Italy
   5. United States
   6. France

From djensens preview

Thank you very much. :D What’s the Global Turn Order?

Global Order of Play

1. Germany
2. Soviet Union
3. Japan
4. United Kingdom
5. ANZAC
6. Italy
7. United States
8. China
9. France

I tried the taranto attack during the games I played at GenCon.  one tac, one fighter, 1 destoyer, 1 cruiser against the one italian battleship, and one crusier.

move the carrier to the coast of soutern france and land the planes on board. This way what ever ships you have left portect from a italian counter-attack on your carrier. the french ships are able too survive and protect your carrier from a German air raid. The germans are the ones you want to watch out for.

if succesful( depends on the dice and how many planes the germans counter attack with) This move can really stunt the Italians. Control of the med is the difference between Italy making 17 and 40 IPCs at the end of turn four.

Very cool Emperor_Taiki, I thought the risk might be worth the reward. I also thought that move might save the French fleet in the Med. Good to point out the Germans may have a counter attack as well. Thanks for sharing.