Europe 1940 shows up on Wizards site…with screenshot


  • @finnman:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    @purplebaron:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    I count over 20 Soviet territories. This is more than the entire Soviet Union in AA50-41. Add that to the 9 on the Pacific board and this game will have a massive Eastern front

    Interesting.  Let’s assume 30 territories for the USSR, then, and let’s further assume that each one has a minimum value of 1 (given that every territory in Siberia has a 1 IPC value, I don’t expect any of the Europe board USSR territories to have 0 value).  Further, let’s assume that the USSR has a major IC in Russia, major IC in Caucasus (Stalingrad) and minor IC in Karelia, then those territories have minimum values of 3, 3, and 2, respectively.  With all of those assumptions, the minimum USSR income is 35 IPCs.  Realistically, I would expect those three territories to be higher, as well as to have a few other 2 value territories.  Therefore, I expect that USSR’s starting income is a healthy 40.  Just think what that means for the other powers.

    Caucusus is probably 3 (it looks like that on the map), but Russia is probably 6 or 8. So, it may be up to 45, and even higher with NO’s. Larry said it gets 6 ipc’s for every German tt it has, so if Russia captures 2 2 ipc german tt, it’s income will be over 60! Add to that the Russian NO for Archangel and no allied units, and you get 65. Germany can’t be defensive and wait for Japan; it must kill Russia by itself, with help from italy.

    He said you’d get 6ipcs for every German territory you control if you own all Russian territories.

    Well, if Russia has captured German tt, it usually has all its western tt. Maybe Japan can invade 1 tt, but that may start war with the US


  • @calvinhobbesliker:

    @cminke:

    I think Brazil is greenish simply because of the coloring for the Amazon rainforest(?).

    i think it is because of they are pro allied(usa, thus the green)

    hey calvinhobbesliker congrats on the 1000th post! :wink:

    Thanks.

    Now your an airplane


  • @Dylan:

    @finnman:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    @purplebaron:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    I count over 20 Soviet territories. This is more than the entire Soviet Union in AA50-41. Add that to the 9 on the Pacific board and this game will have a massive Eastern front

    Interesting.  Let’s assume 30 territories for the USSR, then, and let’s further assume that each one has a minimum value of 1 (given that every territory in Siberia has a 1 IPC value, I don’t expect any of the Europe board USSR territories to have 0 value).  Further, let’s assume that the USSR has a major IC in Russia, major IC in Caucasus (Stalingrad) and minor IC in Karelia, then those territories have minimum values of 3, 3, and 2, respectively.  With all of those assumptions, the minimum USSR income is 35 IPCs.  Realistically, I would expect those three territories to be higher, as well as to have a few other 2 value territories.  Therefore, I expect that USSR’s starting income is a healthy 40.  Just think what that means for the other powers.

    Caucusus is probably 3 (it looks like that on the map), but Russia is probably 6 or 8. So, it may be up to 45, and even higher with NO’s. Larry said it gets 6 ipc’s for every German tt it has, so if Russia captures 2 2 ipc german tt, it’s income will be over 60! Add to that the Russian NO for Archangel and no allied units, and you get 65. Germany can’t be defensive and wait for Japan; it must kill Russia by itself, with help from italy.

    He said you’d get 6ipcs for every German territory you control if you own all Russian territories.

    Do you still get the money from Russia’s territories, and does this include the ones in Pacific too if your playing the world game?

    I think so


  • @Dylan:

    @finnman:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    @purplebaron:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    I count over 20 Soviet territories. This is more than the entire Soviet Union in AA50-41. Add that to the 9 on the Pacific board and this game will have a massive Eastern front

    Interesting.  Let’s assume 30 territories for the USSR, then, and let’s further assume that each one has a minimum value of 1 (given that every territory in Siberia has a 1 IPC value, I don’t expect any of the Europe board USSR territories to have 0 value).  Further, let’s assume that the USSR has a major IC in Russia, major IC in Caucasus (Stalingrad) and minor IC in Karelia, then those territories have minimum values of 3, 3, and 2, respectively.  With all of those assumptions, the minimum USSR income is 35 IPCs.  Realistically, I would expect those three territories to be higher, as well as to have a few other 2 value territories.  Therefore, I expect that USSR’s starting income is a healthy 40.  Just think what that means for the other powers.

    Caucusus is probably 3 (it looks like that on the map), but Russia is probably 6 or 8. So, it may be up to 45, and even higher with NO’s. Larry said it gets 6 ipc’s for every German tt it has, so if Russia captures 2 2 ipc german tt, it’s income will be over 60! Add to that the Russian NO for Archangel and no allied units, and you get 65. Germany can’t be defensive and wait for Japan; it must kill Russia by itself, with help from italy.

    He said you’d get 6ipcs for every German territory you control if you own all Russian territories.

    Do you still get the money from Russia’s territories, and does this include the ones in Pacific too if your playing the world game?

    Yes and Yes from what I understand. So Japan can pluck one territory and you will lose the bonus.


  • @finnman:

    @Dylan:

    @finnman:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    @purplebaron:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    I count over 20 Soviet territories. This is more than the entire Soviet Union in AA50-41. Add that to the 9 on the Pacific board and this game will have a massive Eastern front

    Interesting.  Let’s assume 30 territories for the USSR, then, and let’s further assume that each one has a minimum value of 1 (given that every territory in Siberia has a 1 IPC value, I don’t expect any of the Europe board USSR territories to have 0 value).  Further, let’s assume that the USSR has a major IC in Russia, major IC in Caucasus (Stalingrad) and minor IC in Karelia, then those territories have minimum values of 3, 3, and 2, respectively.  With all of those assumptions, the minimum USSR income is 35 IPCs.  Realistically, I would expect those three territories to be higher, as well as to have a few other 2 value territories.  Therefore, I expect that USSR’s starting income is a healthy 40.  Just think what that means for the other powers.

    Caucusus is probably 3 (it looks like that on the map), but Russia is probably 6 or 8. So, it may be up to 45, and even higher with NO’s. Larry said it gets 6 ipc’s for every German tt it has, so if Russia captures 2 2 ipc german tt, it’s income will be over 60! Add to that the Russian NO for Archangel and no allied units, and you get 65. Germany can’t be defensive and wait for Japan; it must kill Russia by itself, with help from italy.

    He said you’d get 6ipcs for every German territory you control if you own all Russian territories.

    Do you still get the money from Russia’s territories, and does this include the ones in Pacific too if your playing the world game?

    Yes and Yes from what I understand. So Japan can pluck one territory and you will lose the bonus.

    I would slap the Japanese player


  • Well that wouldn’t be very nice. Te He


  • Well, if Russia has captured German tt, it usually has all its western tt. Maybe Japan can invade 1 tt, but that may start war with the US

    Well later in the game Germany could have got obliterated in the north and lost Poland but yet they still hold Stalingrad


  • @calvinhobbesliker:

    SAS, I meant those that spawn
    What does AE mean?

    Anniversary Edition


  • Hmmm…  Looks like a loaded UK carrier by Spain…  Sealion fans will have their hands full.  So will Italy in the Med.  Hopefully its vulnerable to sub attacks G1 or smth.


  • Looking at my map of P40 and the pic of E40 I have come to the conclusion that the US sides WILL match.  Michigan can be clearly seen but you have to estimate (you can kinda see it too) a little higher with some Upper Pennisula territory and even higher still Minnesota ground- trace that across and you do get about where the West US would match up.  Being a Michigander I can possibly notice this fine point of geography.

    Its just very hard to tell because the pic is at a steep angle.  The box pic is also not proportionate to the P40 box for the same reason.

    Larry said he is going to call Wizards to see if he can release a better pic of the map to us and hopefully the REAL French sculpts and pieces. :-)


  • If the BattleStrip and IPC/WD chart are correct on the pic- then that is good.  Both charts needed these improvements from Pacific. :-)

    I think the game will turn out just fine with meaningless errors.  Spelling Palau wrong, putting Honolulu in the wrong place and the Korea sz border in the wrong place are marks of carelessness but not essential.  In fact one doesn’t notice them unless they are pointed out and they don’t effect gameplay-except the Korea sz thing which does have to be pointed out and overlooked.  All in all people will be happy including myself.


  • 2 things I’ve noticed… The Dutch and French markers in South America… and the lack of a German roundel in Finland.

    I’m going to assume then that Finland will have it’s own roundel for the purposes of a Russian attack not violating it’s (Russia’s) neutrality.
    I wonder if France is going to have the same “can walk into Dutch territories” that UK and ANZAC had in PAC40.

    I wish we could see Europe itself a bit more clearly…
    Africa and Russia both look HUGE and the Atlantic looks like a fun place to have naval battles.


  • BTW, the Black Sea has a zone number… I wonder if the invasion of Turkey would allow ships into and out of there.


  • @robbie358:

    BTW, the Black Sea has a zone number… I wonder if the invasion of Turkey would allow ships into and out of there.

    That was the plan with the new strait rules according to Larry.

    @robbie358:

    2 things I’ve noticed… The Dutch and French markers in South America… and the lack of a German roundel in Finland.

    I’m going to assume then that Finland will have it’s own roundel for the purposes of a Russian attack not violating it’s (Russia’s) neutrality.
    I wonder if France is going to have the same “can walk into Dutch territories” that UK and ANZAC had in PAC40.

    I wish we could see Europe itself a bit more clearly…
    Africa and Russia both look HUGE and the Atlantic looks like a fun place to have naval battles.

    I can’t tell with Finland.  To me it looks like there’s a US roundel on it in the picture, so I can’t tell if it’s covering a German roundel or a black infantry spawn symbol.  I highly doubt it will have its own roundel.

    As for France, with them being autonomous, I would assume they could take control of Dutch territories, though with the assurance from Larry that Paris will fall to the Germans within two turns, that would be pointless for the Allies as they couldn’t gain any IPCs or anything from those territories from then on.


  • @robbie358:

    BTW, the Black Sea has a zone number… I wonder if the invasion of Turkey would allow ships into and out of there.

    The answer is yes, Larry said it


  • @SAS:

    As for France, with them being autonomous, I would assume they could take control of Dutch territories, though with the assurance from Larry that Paris will fall to the Germans within two turns, that would be pointless for the Allies as they couldn’t gain any IPCs or anything from those territories from then on.

    When an allied power’s capital falls, you can take over their territories and gain IPCs from them. So the French can take over the Dutch territories, gaining IPCs from them. Then, if Paris falls, the UK can take these territories over from the French. It’s a rule that some people seem completely unaware of. For clarification, see the bottom of this FAQ page:

    http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=16870.15


  • @Make_It_Round:

    @SAS:

    As for France, with them being autonomous, I would assume they could take control of Dutch territories, though with the assurance from Larry that Paris will fall to the Germans within two turns, that would be pointless for the Allies as they couldn’t gain any IPCs or anything from those territories from then on.

    When an allied power’s capital falls, you can take over their territories and gain IPCs from them. So the French can take over the Dutch territories, gaining IPCs from them. Then, if Paris falls, the UK can take these territories over from the French. It’s a rule that some people seem completely unaware of. For clarification, see the bottom of this FAQ page:

    http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=16870.15

    This can only happen if the tt in question are under enemy control

  • Customizer

    I like the French colour.  But I see no French control markers?

    I really wish that the Italians and Russians would be more distinguishable from each other.  I guess I’m buying a light green spray bomb …

    They’ll get their money out of me with this - even without a true start date of 1939.


  • @calvinhobbesliker:

    @Make_It_Round:

    @SAS:

    As for France, with them being autonomous, I would assume they could take control of Dutch territories, though with the assurance from Larry that Paris will fall to the Germans within two turns, that would be pointless for the Allies as they couldn’t gain any IPCs or anything from those territories from then on.

    When an allied power’s capital falls, you can take over their territories and gain IPCs from them. So the French can take over the Dutch territories, gaining IPCs from them. Then, if Paris falls, the UK can take these territories over from the French. It’s a rule that some people seem completely unaware of. For clarification, see the bottom of this FAQ page:

    http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=16870.15

    This can only happen if the tt in question are under enemy control

    Seriously? Jeez. Krieg, could we get a clarification from you on this? Does this appear in the rules anywhere?

    And will the “only UK and ANZAC troops can take over Dutch territories” rule extend to Europe, as well? Or can the French and Russians pick up Dutch territories too?

    Cheers, MIR


  • I don’t see how French or Russian units can get all the way to the DEI without transports in the area, especially with japan’s super fleet. I don’t see why you’d want France to take them, since they can’t collect ipcs

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