• the axis should definantly have a much larger militery but come on, germany at 40 and russia at 24! there is no contest even with the tommys intervening. the japs have way to much income. one of their main problems was that the united states controlled their oil supply and cut it off early in the war. this severely hurt the jap economy, 30 ipcs is way to much! the new map is really cool, especially the territories in europe. these new teritories work to russias advantage because they split up the german force. overall though, it was worth the 50 bucks!!!


  • Tigertank. I know you in person so i can safely say that you are dumb.
    Japan’s income is fine. And their oil supplies were only cut off later in the war. They had plenty of oil around thier many islands.

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    @germanstrom:

    Tigertank. I know you in person so i can safely say that you are dumb.
    Japan’s income is fine. And their oil supplies were only cut off later in the war. They had plenty of oil around thier many islands.

    They never really had much oil in the first place. What Tigertank should have said is that the US sunk the Japanese Shipping carrying the oil.


  • Actually the US could not even reach the sea zones around the Dutch East Indies for quite a while. Japan did not have much oil, though, because it lacked a large merchant marine fleet. It did not have the ships to carry the oil to Japan. Their income is too high (they were the weakest of all the major powers [Italy doesnt count]) but for game balance they needed a boost. It doesnt matter if its historically accurate if it is boring, so for the sake of game balance it is fine


  • The balance is good, the board is good, the game is good. If only there were more national advantages….


  • MORE ADVANTAGES!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


  • You could have more variety and more to choose. I am not saying that you have to use all of them, but more or better ones would be better.


  • The advantages have already thrown all the old strategies out of wak, give the tommys colonial garison and the americans superfortrases and they can blow the heck out of the krauts and the japs without russian help.


  • I say new ones for the axis. It’s just unfair.


  • germanstorm, the axis have enough advantages!!!

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    I saay change exsisting ones….


  • Or change them it doesn’t matter.


  • things were nice and peacful here until germanstrom arrived. please, stop your blitzkrieg of the message board.


  • LOL you are the one who brought me to this site and you started the blitz.


  • @germanstrom:

    LOL you are the one who brought me to this site and you started the blitz.

    Again i’d like to kill this argument. Let’s let the thread go on in peace please.


  • Sure i’ll stop.


  • @tigertank:

    MORE ADVANTAGES!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

    I’m with you on that!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D


  • @Guerrilla:

    I saay change exsisting ones….

    This is more of what I mean.


  • Avalon Hill just made a great game greater. They have made the sides much more even for advanced players. I also own the old version of A&A. I plan on using the new pieces when I play the old version also. Having no piece trays with the new game was a little disapointing but, I just use my trays from the old game. The pieces in revised A&A look cool and the planes now stay on the carriers easier but, now the thin submarines tip over alot. So instead of putting planes back on carriers, I am now standing my subs back up all the time. I especially like the artillery pieces giving infantry better attack and that you can transport more stuff on one transport. Two hit battleships finally make them worth 24 IPC’s. Best of all, No one has the strategy completely figured out like the old game was. More room for original tactics and strategies to suprise your friends.


  • is the revised one shorter? How long does it take to play the revised one?

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