Thank you so much!
Speculation on Africa
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I have some speculation on Africa’s role in the game or more accurately, some questions. Firstly, do colonies of minor powers (Belgium and Portugal) have a default military force in those territories? Second, if so can Britain bring them into the fight under Allied control or can only France do that since they are directly allied with her. Thirdly, how much are these African territories worth? I want to say 1-2 IPC but every time I look at Belgian Congo or Portuguese Angola I think its 3-4 IPC? (and I am almost certain that Tunisia is worth 3 from the image) Anyone know the answers to these or have speculation on Africa’s role in the game? I feel like its going to be even more vital in this game than in the WWII games given that this is the most strategically sound land route for the Allies to invade the Ottoman Empire and if my gut feeling is correct, it is worth way more IPC’s than in previous games.
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I can’t see any IPC values on the map, but if Belgium is only worth 2 there’s no way Tunisia will be more than 1.
We don’t know yet how the Belgian and Portuguese colonies work; in the reports even though both countries were activated Larry made no mention of placing units in their colonies; the assumption has to be that someone has to move units in there.
This seems to lead to the anomaly that Germany can move pieces into Congo to attack, but the UK cannot move units in there to defend as this is a “French ally”.
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So Britain can’t even move into those territories until they’re captured by Germany or converted to the Allies by France?
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No where did it say Britian can’t move into those territories. For all we know either nothing happens when allied troops walk into an unactivated minor allied power, or they simply spawn the defence units for the player who the minor is allied to.
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I think African tt should only spawn 1/2 units, i.e. a 1 IPC tt gets 2 inf rather than 3 and 1 art.
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We’re not even sure they spawn units atm. I personally don’t think they well.
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So what’s to stop Germany just walking into Congo? There are no French defenders anywhere near.
Regarding African IPC values, I can see South Africa being 2, maybe mineral-rich Belgian Congo, Egypt with the Suez canal zone, and perhaps GEA for balance. Otherwise 1 is as much as they’re worth.
German colonies will all be over-rated, for example SWA was desert with a few mud huts, hardly worth half the industrial rating of Belgium.Bismarck used to say that the whole of Africa and Asia together wasn’t worth a single Pomeranian Grenadier.
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We’re not even sure they spawn units atm. I personally don’t think they well.
I sure hope they do, other wise Germany gets free reign over Central Africa. Plus it wouldn’t be very logical or accurate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_campaign_in_Angola
Then again historical accuracy is second to game balance. I just feel like France has no teeth in Africa and if the Portuguese and Belgian colonies don’t get troops, then Britain has to take all of Africa and hold off the Ottomans on their own.
I’m also surprised that German East Africa only gets 1 infantry given that this incredible bastard was never defeated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Emil_von_Lettow-Vorbeck
Though A&A games have never really depicted guerrilla warfare before.
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IPC values are rarely logical.
We already know that Belgium, Holland and Serbia are each worth 2. But while the Low Countries were heavily industrialized with large colonial interests, Serbia was a backwoods mountain Kingdom with little or no industry and an army little better equipped and organized than partisans (though relatively large in numbers).
GSWA seems to have an infantry and artillery while the other 3 colonies just have the one infantry defending. If we assume that Germany cannot build units in Africa it doesn’t give them much scope to do anything bar sit tight and hope to survive.
It’s a little awkward to rate these colonies; SWA had by far the smallest population, but it had the highest population of Germans (there were mineral deposits in the desert; the other colonies were largely jungle.)
Again it would be logical that players can recruit the odd infantry unit in African colonies, but this doesn’t look like being the case.
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Well they have to give the Germans some chance in Africa, otherwise why even put them in the game? The British, italians and french already vastly outnumber them, it’s possible that there is nothing stopping the germans from taking the Congo for no other reason than it’s a way for Germany to pester the French and British for a turn or two before dying off.
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Mmm, possible. Also, why are there no UK units in Nigeria and Gold Coast?
We could at least have had a German cruiser to raid the African coast.
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Yeah I am dissapointed in the lack of a German navy anywhere around there, sure there were only really two engagments but they still played a part in distracting the royal navy. I will probably add one in if it looks like it wont unbalance the game. But I think Germany is just supposed to give the allies a turn or two of a hard time, and force them to make a decisions regarding the Germans in Central Africa, and the Ottomans in the Sinai and how they react. Also, I want to see an Italian invasion of Ethiopia just for fun :-D
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We’re not even sure they spawn units atm. I personally don’t think they will.
Why not just use Flashy-boy’s idea for askaris and say that each colony has a single askari defending?
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Africa should not be in the Game - big mistake
They should have used the A&A Europe 1999 edition map
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Agreed!
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Africa should not be in the Game - big mistake
They should have used the A&A Europe 1999 edition map
True, they could’ve just used North Africa and no-one would have cared. Plus, we’d have room for more territories in Europe and could do away with this East Prussia nonsense.
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That doesn’t look like my original A&A Europe map. That is a variant/house rule!
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@Hitlers:
We’re not even sure they spawn units atm. I personally don’t think they well.
I sure hope they do, other wise Germany gets free reign over Central Africa. Plus it wouldn’t be very logical or accurate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_campaign_in_Angola
Then again historical accuracy is second to game balance. I just feel like France has no teeth in Africa and if the Portuguese and Belgian colonies don’t get troops, then Britain has to take all of Africa and hold off the Ottomans on their own.
I’m also surprised that German East Africa only gets 1 infantry given that this incredible b��t��d was never defeated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Emil_von_Lettow-Vorbeck
Though A&A games have never really depicted guerrilla warfare before.
That is really truly epic. Thank you.
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That doesn’t look like my original A&A Europe map. That is a variant/house rule!
Are you sure you got an original copy, and not just some cheap pirat copy made by Frank Xeno ?
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Yes mine is the original A&A Europe.
Not sure what yours is, must be a fan created variant.
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