BotA U-505 vs. Pug

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :15

Combat Move - UnitedKingdom
            2 Barques, 2 Battleships and 1 Cutter moved from SZ16 to SZ24
            1 Battleship, 6 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 11 Cutters and 1 Frigate moved from SZ17 to SZ22
            1 Marines moved from Edinburgh to Cumbria
            1 Artillery, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Howitzer, 6 Mariness and 2 Mortarss moved from Old Castille to Galacia
            1 Dragoons moved from Oxfordshire to Wessex
                  UnitedKingdom take Wessex from France
            1 Dragoons moved from Wessex to Oxfordshire
            2 Fusilierss moved from Oxfordshire to Cheshire

Purchase Units - UnitedKingdom
            UnitedKingdom buy 1 Brigantine, 4 Cutters and 1 Frigate; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - UnitedKingdom
            Battle in Galacia
                UnitedKingdom attack with 1 Artillery, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Howitzer, 6 Mariness and 2 Mortarss
                France defend with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
                    UnitedKingdom roll dice for 1 Artillery, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Howitzer, 6 Mariness and 2 Mortarss in Galacia, round 1 :  5/1 hits
                    Spain roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines in Galacia, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Howitzer owned by the UnitedKingdom , 1 Marines owned by the France and 1 Fusiliers owned by the France lost in Galacia
                UnitedKingdom win, taking Galacia from Spain with 1 Artillery, 3 Fusilierss, 6 Mariness and 2 Mortarss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for France: 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
                Casualties for UnitedKingdom: 1 Howitzer
            1 General moved from Oxfordshire to Cheshire

Place Units - UnitedKingdom
            1 Brigantine and 1 Cutter placed in SZ30
            3 Cutters and 1 Frigate placed in SZ68

Turn Complete - UnitedKingdom
            UnitedKingdom collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs total
            Objective Balancing Convoy Income for balanced game: UnitedKingdom met a national objective for an additional -4 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Territory Summary for UnitedKingdom :

Cumbria : 1 flag, 1 Marines
    Scotland : 1 flag, 1 Fortress
    Corsica : 1 flag
    Cheshire : 1 flag, 2 Fusilierss and 1 General
    SZ69 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter
    SZ68 : 1 flag, 1 Barque, 5 Battleships, 7 Brigantines, 6 Cutters and 1 Frigate
    Cologne : 1 flag
    Sicily : 1 flag
    Essex : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 4 Fusilierss and 5 Mortella_Towers
    Rome : 1 flag, 1 Encampment, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery, 3 Mariness and 2 Mortella_Towers
    SZ24 : 1 flag, 2 Barques, 2 Battleships and 1 Cutter
    Connaught : 1 flag
    South Wales : 1 flag, 1 Mortella_Tower
    SZ30 : 1 flag, 1 Brigantine and 1 Cutter
    Hanovre : 1 flag, 1 Fortress and 3 Mortella_Towers
    Galacia : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 3 Fusilierss, 6 Mariness and 2 Mortarss
    Oxfordshire : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Dragoons and 1 Fusiliers
    SZ22 : 1 flag, 1 Battleship, 6 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 11 Cutters and 1 Frigate
    Eturia : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 61 / 56
    UnitedKingdom : 44 / 40
    Spain : 43 / 36
    KingdomOfPrussia : 28 / 33
    Sweden : 26 / 29
    AustrianEmpire : 36 / 36
    OttomanEmpire : 32 / 34
    Russia : 50 / 50

[pug6000]

What shall I say … Lisboa was and is my intention. An encampment threatening the convoy zones in that area is a big problem. Spain really depends on that convoy zone.

Normally the Coalition rules the seas the the Carolingians rule the land. This time it’s completly the other way round. And it’s hard to change it … for both.

[Veqryn]

i know pug knows this, but i hope u505 knows this.

that -10 national objective that is hitting spain every turn: it will happen no matter what

if spain loses that convoy, and loses the rest of spain, except her capital, spain will:

make 5 or slightly more each round
then lose 10

ends up with 0 (zero) income (cus you can’t go negative)

think of it like global 1940’s blockades if you want: an american fleet in sea zone 6 can kill all of japan’s “land income”
(this is just to help visualize it, they are different rules for different games)

[U-505]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :15

Combat Move - Spain
            1 Fusiliers moved from New Castille to Estremadura
                  Spain take Estremadura from KingdomOfPrussia
            3 Fusilierss moved from New Castille to Andalusia
            2 Dragoonss and 1 Horse_Artillery moved from Valencia to Andalusia
            2 Mariness moved from Catalonia to SZ57
            2 Frigates and 2 Mariness moved from SZ57 to SZ54
            2 Mariness moved from SZ54 to Andalusia
            2 Mariness moved from Algeria to SZ58
            1 Marines moved from Algeria to SZ58
            1 Barque, 1 Corvette and 3 Mariness moved from SZ58 to SZ54
            3 Mariness moved from SZ54 to Andalusia
            1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Mortars moved from Algeria to Areg

Purchase Units - Spain
            Spain buy 1 Chasseurs, 2 Cutters, 2 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 2 Mortella_Towers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Spain
            Battle in Andalusia
                Spain attack with 2 Dragoonss, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 5 Mariness
                KingdomOfPrussia defend with 1 Horse_Artillery
                    Spain roll dice for 2 Frigates in Andalusia, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                    1 Horse_Artillery owned by the KingdomOfPrussia lost in Andalusia
                Spain win, taking Andalusia from UnitedKingdom with 2 Dragoonss, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 5 Mariness remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 1 Horse_Artillery
            Battle in Areg
                Spain attack with 1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Mortars
                Neutral defend with 1 Fusiliers
                    Spain roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Mortars in Areg, round 1 :  2/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Areg, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Fusiliers owned by the Neutral lost in Areg
                Spain win, taking Areg from Neutral with 1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Mortars remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 Fusiliers

Non Combat Move - Spain
            1 General moved from Oran to Tangiers
            1 General moved from Algeria to Oran
            1 Barque moved from SZ59 to SZ64
            1 Cuirassiers moved from Sardinia to SZ64
            1 Barque and 1 Cuirassiers moved from SZ64 to SZ60
            1 Battleship, 1 Brigantine, 2 Corvettes, 4 Cutters and 2 Frigates moved from SZ59 to SZ58
            2 Cutters moved from SZ58 to SZ54
            1 Cutter moved from SZ60 to SZ58
            1 Cutter moved from SZ61 to SZ58

Place Units - Spain
            2 Mortella_Towers placed in Majorca
            1 Chasseurs, 2 Fusilierss and 1 Horse_Artillery placed in New Castille
            1 Cutter placed in SZ58
            1 Cutter placed in SZ54

Turn Complete - Spain
            Spain collect 47 PUs; end with 47 PUs total
            Objective Balancing Convoy Income for balanced game: Spain met a national objective for an additional -10 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Territory Summary for Spain :

Sardinia : 1 flag, 2 Fortresss and 3 Mortella_Towers
    SZ64 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter
    SZ61 : 1 flag, 1 Brigantine
    El Erg : 1 flag
    Tangiers : 1 flag, 1 General
    Oran : 1 flag, 1 General
    Alemtejo : 1 flag
    Majorca : 1 flag, 1 Encampment, 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mortella_Towers
    Atlas : 1 flag
    Estremadura : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
    Provence : 1 flag
    SZ60 : 1 flag, 1 Barque, 1 Brigantine and 1 Cuirassiers
    SZ59 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter
    SZ54 : 1 flag, 1 Barque, 1 Corvette, 3 Cutters and 2 Frigates
    West Sahara : 1 flag
    Algeria : 1 flag
    SZ58 : 1 flag, 1 Battleship, 1 Brigantine, 2 Corvettes, 7 Cutters and 2 Frigates
    Andalusia : 1 flag, 2 Dragoonss, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 5 Mariness
    Areg : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Mortars
    New Castille : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 1 Chasseurs, 2 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 20 Mortella_Towers

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 61 / 56
    UnitedKingdom : 42 / 40
    Spain : 47 / 37
    KingdomOfPrussia : 27 / 33
    Sweden : 26 / 29
    AustrianEmpire : 36 / 36
    OttomanEmpire : 32 / 34
    Russia : 50 / 50

[U-505]

@pug6000:

What shall I say … Lisboa was and is my intention. An encampment threatening the convoy zones in that area is a big problem. Spain really depends on that convoy zone.

Yeah, it’s really a pain in the ass having to move my fleet back to protect it.

@Veqryn:

i know pug knows this, but i hope u505 knows this.

that -10 national objective that is hitting spain every turn: it will happen no matter what

if spain loses that convoy, and loses the rest of spain, except her capital, spain will:

make 5 or slightly more each round
then lose 10

ends up with 0 (zero) income (cus you can’t go negative)

think of it like global 1940’s blockades if you want: an american fleet in sea zone 6 can kill all of japan’s “land income”
(this is just to help visualize it, they are different rules for different games)

Pug explained it but it still took a little while to wrap my head around it. Basically, controlling all of your convoy zones doesn’t necessarily mean you get all of your income. Some countries will always have an economic hit no matter what.

[Veqryn]

ya it is a bit confusing, and i am looking at ways of making it simpler for new users

basically, it was a balancing decision

i wanted there to be more territories and convoy income in the game

but i didn’t want spain to be making ~50 or 60 a round

so the solution was to keep the higher amount of income, but then use a negative objective to reduce certain nation’s income so that game would be balanced

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :15

Combat Move - KingdomOfPrussia
            1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers moved from Mecklenburg to Holstein
            6 Fusilierss moved from Prussia to Pomerania
            1 Fusiliers moved from Posen to Pomerania
            1 Fusiliers moved from Brandenburg to Pomerania
            3 Dragoonss moved from Brandenburg to Pomerania
            1 Chasseurs moved from Mecklenburg to Pomerania
            1 Chasseurs moved from Mecklenburg to Pomerania

Purchase Units - KingdomOfPrussia
            KingdomOfPrussia buy 1 Dragoons, 3 Fusilierss and 3 Horse_Artillerys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - KingdomOfPrussia
            Battle in Holstein
                KingdomOfPrussia attack with 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers
                Sweden defend with 1 Fusiliers
                    KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers in Holstein, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Sweden roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Holstein, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers in Holstein, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Sweden roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Holstein, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers in Holstein, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    Sweden roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Holstein, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Fusiliers owned by the Sweden lost in Holstein
                KingdomOfPrussia win, taking Holstein from Sweden with 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Sweden: 1 Fusiliers
            Battle in Pomerania
                KingdomOfPrussia attack with 2 Chasseurss, 3 Dragoonss and 8 Fusilierss
                Sweden defend with 1 Fusiliers
                    KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 2 Chasseurss, 3 Dragoonss and 8 Fusilierss in Pomerania, round 1 :  3/1 hits
                    Sweden roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Pomerania, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Fusiliers owned by the Sweden lost in Pomerania
                KingdomOfPrussia win, taking Pomerania from Sweden with 2 Chasseurss, 3 Dragoonss and 8 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Sweden: 1 Fusiliers

Non Combat Move - KingdomOfPrussia
            6 Dragoonss moved from Hesse to Mecklenburg

Place Units - KingdomOfPrussia
            3 Horse_Artillerys placed in Brandenburg
            1 Dragoons and 3 Fusilierss placed in Prussia

Turn Complete - KingdomOfPrussia
            KingdomOfPrussia collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total

Territory Summary for KingdomOfPrussia :

SZ2 : 1 flag, 1 Brigantine and 1 Frigate
    Brandenburg : 1 flag, 1 Fortress, 1 General and 3 Horse_Artillerys
    Algarve : 1 flag, 1 Horse_Artillery
    Pomerania : 1 flag, 2 Chasseurss, 3 Dragoonss and 8 Fusilierss
    Old Castille : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 5 Chasseurss, 7 Fusilierss and 1 Howitzer
    Hesse : 1 flag, 1 Cuirassiers, 4 Dragoonss, 3 Horse_Artillerys and 2 Hussarss
    Leon : 1 flag, 3 Horse_Artillerys
    Oporto : 1 flag, 1 Dragoons, 2 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Hussars
    Holstein : 1 flag, 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers
    Prussia : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 1 Dragoons, 3 Fusilierss and 14 Mortella_Towers
    Mecklenburg : 1 flag, 4 Artillerys, 6 Dragoonss and 8 Fusilierss
    Rhine : 1 flag, 11 Fusilierss

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 61 / 56
    UnitedKingdom : 42 / 40
    Spain : 47 / 37
    KingdomOfPrussia : 31 / 31
    Sweden : 22 / 29
    AustrianEmpire : 36 / 36
    OttomanEmpire : 32 / 34
    Russia : 50 / 50

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[U-505]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :15

Combat Move - Sweden
            2 Artillerys, 8 Chasseurss, 1 Dragoons, 1 Fusiliers, 2 Grenadierss, 6 Mariness and 2 Mortarss moved from Jutland to Holstein
            1 Artillery moved from Skane to SZ11
            1 Artillery moved from SZ11 to Holstein
            1 Barque moved from SZ10 to SZ9
            4 Fusilierss and 4 Mariness moved from Ostra Gotaland to SZ9
            4 Barques, 1 Battleship, 2 Frigates, 4 Fusilierss and 4 Mariness moved from SZ9 to SZ10
            4 Fusilierss and 4 Mariness moved from SZ10 to Holstein

Purchase Units - Sweden
            Sweden buy 1 Chasseurs and 6 Fusilierss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Sweden
            Battle in Holstein
                Sweden attack with 3 Artillerys, 8 Chasseurss, 1 Dragoons, 5 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 10 Mariness and 2 Mortarss
                KingdomOfPrussia defend with 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers
                    Sweden roll dice for 1 Battleship and 2 Frigates in Holstein, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Artillery owned by the KingdomOfPrussia lost in Holstein
                    Sweden roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 8 Chasseurss, 1 Dragoons, 5 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 10 Mariness and 2 Mortarss in Holstein, round 1 :  11/0 hits
                    KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Holstein, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Artillery owned by the Sweden and 1 Fusiliers owned by the KingdomOfPrussia lost in Holstein
                Sweden win, taking Holstein from KingdomOfPrussia with 2 Artillerys, 8 Chasseurss, 1 Dragoons, 5 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 10 Mariness and 2 Mortarss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers
                Casualties for Sweden: 1 Artillery

Non Combat Move - Sweden
            1 Fusiliers moved from Svealand to Ostra Gotaland

Place Units - Sweden
            1 Chasseurs and 1 Fusiliers placed in Jutland
            5 Fusilierss placed in Svealand

Turn Complete - Sweden
            Sweden collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs total

Territory Summary for Sweden :

Norvege : 1 flag
    Bohus : 1 flag, 1 Fortress
    Svealand : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 5 Fusilierss and 1 Mortella_Tower
    Jutland : 1 flag, 1 Chasseurs, 2 Fortresss, 1 Fusiliers and 1 General
    SZ8 : 1 flag
    SZ3 : 1 flag, 3 Brigantines and 5 Cutters
    SZ10 : 1 flag, 4 Barques, 1 Battleship and 2 Frigates
    Holstein : 1 flag, 2 Artillerys, 8 Chasseurss, 1 Dragoons, 5 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 10 Mariness and 2 Mortarss
    SZ11 : 1 flag, 1 Barque
    SZ19 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter
    Ostra Gotaland : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 61 / 56
    UnitedKingdom : 42 / 40
    Spain : 47 / 37
    KingdomOfPrussia : 30 / 31
    Sweden : 23 / 23
    AustrianEmpire : 36 / 36
    OttomanEmpire : 32 / 34
    Russia : 50 / 50

[pug6000]

It seems that concentration is lacking on both sides. 2 Big mistakes in a row.

First Prussia forgets to moves its Spanish forces.
Then Sweden forgets to move its smaller Baltic fleet.

Let’s see if I can at least fix a bit on Prussian side.

[U-505]

@pug6000:

It seems that concentration is lacking on both sides. 2 Big mistakes in a row.

First Prussia forgets to moves its Spanish forces.
Then Sweden forgets to move its smaller Baltic fleet.

Let’s see if I can at least fix a bit on Prussian side.

Ha. I didn’t even see that Russian naval purchase. I just assumed they were building more cavalry so I didn’t even bother looking at the turn summary. that was a huge mistake.

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :15

Combat Move - AustrianEmpire
            5 Chasseurss and 3 Fusilierss moved from Bavaria to Rhine
            4 Chasseurss and 2 Fusilierss moved from Salzburg to Bavaria
            2 Chasseurss and 2 Fusilierss moved from Austria to Salzburg
            1 Dragoons moved from Lombardi to Liguria
            2 Dragoonss, 3 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Hussars moved from Venetia to Liguria
            1 Fusiliers moved from Hollande to Flanders
                  AustrianEmpire take Flanders from France
            1 Cutter and 1 Frigate moved from SZ77 to SZ75
            1 Fusiliers moved from Serbia to Albania
                  AustrianEmpire take Albania from OttomanEmpire
            2 Artillerys, 6 Chasseurss, 17 Fusilierss and 1 Grenadiers moved from Old Castille to Leon
            2 Cuirassierss, 3 Dragoonss and 2 Horse_Artillerys moved from Leon to Oporto
            1 Horse_Artillery moved from Oporto to Alemtejo
                  AustrianEmpire take Alemtejo from Spain

Purchase Units - AustrianEmpire
            AustrianEmpire buy 2 Cutters and 6 Fusilierss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - AustrianEmpire

Non Combat Move - AustrianEmpire

Place Units - AustrianEmpire
            2 Cutters placed in SZ77
            6 Fusilierss placed in Austria

Turn Complete - AustrianEmpire
            AustrianEmpire collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs total

Territory Summary for AustrianEmpire :

Slavonia : 1 flag, 1 Fortress
    Bosnia : 1 flag
    Lombardi : 1 flag
    Albania : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
    Flanders : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
    Austria : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 6 Fusilierss and 1 Mortella_Tower
    Alemtejo : 1 flag, 1 Horse_Artillery
    Leon : 1 flag, 2 Artillerys, 6 Chasseurss, 17 Fusilierss and 1 Grenadiers
    Venetia : 1 flag, 3 Dragoonss
    Oporto : 1 flag, 2 Cuirassierss, 3 Dragoonss and 1 Horse_Artillery
    Bologna : 1 flag
    Cologne : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
    Salzburg : 1 flag, 2 Chasseurss, 1 Fortress and 2 Fusilierss
    Liguria : 1 flag, 3 Dragoonss, 3 Horse_Artillerys and 2 Hussarss
    Bavaria : 1 flag, 4 Chasseurss and 2 Fusilierss
    Macedonia : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
    Serbia : 1 flag, 1 Howitzer
    Rhine : 1 flag, 7 Chasseurss, 2 Dragoonss, 27 Fusilierss and 1 Horse_Artillery
    Umbria : 1 flag
    Bulgaria : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 9 Fusilierss and 1 Marines
    SZ75 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter and 1 Frigate
    SZ77 : 1 flag, 2 Cutters
    Slovenia : 1 flag, 1 General

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 59 / 56
    UnitedKingdom : 42 / 40
    Spain : 44 / 37
    KingdomOfPrussia : 30 / 31
    Sweden : 23 / 23
    AustrianEmpire : 42 / 42
    OttomanEmpire : 31 / 34
    Russia : 50 / 50

[pug6000]

I am not sure, who suffers from the mistakes. The pressure on Spain is reduced a lot, but Sweden is really in danger now.

I think you will profit more from the mistakes than suffer, so I move on. But I offer you to start again with the Prussian move in case you think the Swedish mistake will hurt too much.

[U-505]

I’ll leave the decision up to you since I’ve already edited to fix my non-combat mistakes in the past.

[pug6000]

I dont mind, I am open to both ways (which is unusual, as I normally hate edit, but so far this has been a nearly perfect game).

I think that the relieve for Spain in the current situation is bigger than the problem of loosing Sweden (which will take some time, though it ceases to play a major role).

Take your time to choose  :-)

[U-505]

Well, I’ll let the dice decide for us then.

1=Play on
2=restart the Prussian turn

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)

[U-505]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :15

Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
            1 Fusiliers moved from Antioch to Syria
                  OttomanEmpire take Syria from Russia
            2 Chasseurss and 2 Fusilierss moved from Edessa to Syria
            1 Fusiliers moved from Constantinople to SZ92
            1 Marines moved from Kiutayeh to SZ92
            1 Howitzer moved from Lazes to Astrakahn
            1 Barque, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines moved from SZ92 to SZ97
            1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines moved from SZ97 to Astrakahn

Purchase Units - OttomanEmpire
            OttomanEmpire buy 2 Chasseurss and 6 Fusilierss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - OttomanEmpire
            Battle in Astrakahn
                OttomanEmpire attack with 1 Fusiliers, 1 Howitzer and 1 Marines
                Russia defend with 1 Grenadiers and 1 Hussars
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 2 Frigates in Astrakahn, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                    1 Hussars owned by the Russia lost in Astrakahn
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers, 1 Howitzer and 1 Marines in Astrakahn, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                    Russia roll dice for 1 Grenadiers in Astrakahn, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Howitzer owned by the OttomanEmpire and 1 Grenadiers owned by the Russia lost in Astrakahn
                OttomanEmpire win, taking Astrakahn from Russia with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for OttomanEmpire: 1 Howitzer
                Casualties for Russia: 1 Grenadiers and 1 Hussars

Non Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
            1 Fusiliers moved from Sinop to Lazes
            2 Fusilierss moved from Constantinople to Kiutayeh
            2 Dragoonss, 6 Horse_Artillerys, 2 Hussarss and 2 Marshals moved from Tarsus to Edessa
            1 Horse_Artillery moved from Anatolia to Tarsus
            2 Dragoonss moved from Anatolia to Tarsus
            1 Hussars moved from Sinop to Tarsus
            1 Marshal moved from Constantinople to Karamania
            1 Barque, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Marines moved from SZ82 to SZ90
            1 Chasseurs moved from SZ90 to Sinai
            1 Brigantine moved from SZ74 to SZ80
            1 Marines moved from Thessaly to SZ80
            1 Brigantine and 1 Marines moved from SZ80 to SZ82

Place Units - OttomanEmpire
            1 Fusiliers placed in Candia
            2 Chasseurss and 1 Fusiliers placed in Anatolia
            4 Fusilierss placed in Constantinople

Turn Complete - OttomanEmpire
            OttomanEmpire collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total

Territory Summary for OttomanEmpire :

Tarsus : 1 flag, 2 Dragoonss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars
    Astrakahn : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
    SZ82 : 1 flag, 1 Brigantine and 1 Marines
    SZ98 : 1 flag
    Armenia : 1 flag
    Lazes : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 17 Chasseurss, 9 Fusilierss, 1 Howitzer, 1 Marines and 1 Mortars
    Georgia : 1 flag
    SZ97 : 1 flag, 3 Barques and 2 Frigates
    Constantinople : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 7 Fortresss, 4 Fusilierss and 25 Mortella_Towers
    SZ90 : 1 flag, 1 Barque and 1 Marines
    Sinai : 1 flag, 1 Chasseurs
    Edessa : 1 flag, 2 Dragoonss, 6 Horse_Artillerys, 2 Hussarss and 2 Marshals
    SZ73 : 1 flag
    Kiutayeh : 1 flag, 2 Fusilierss
    Syria : 1 flag, 2 Chasseurss and 3 Fusilierss
    Candia : 1 flag, 1 Encampment, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Mortella_Tower
    Karamania : 1 flag, 1 Marshal
    Anatolia : 1 flag, 2 Chasseurss, 1 Fusiliers, 1 General and 1 Mortella_Tower

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 59 / 56
    UnitedKingdom : 42 / 40
    Spain : 44 / 37
    KingdomOfPrussia : 30 / 31
    Sweden : 23 / 23
    AustrianEmpire : 42 / 42
    OttomanEmpire : 34 / 34
    Russia : 47 / 50

[U-505]

I actually used the wrong dice roller but I ended up rolling a 1 anyway.  :lol:

To be honest, I was curious to see how both ways would play out.

[pug6000]

I just noticed that I made a mistake. I simulalted the move and used the dice server.

I have to do the move again. It was to your disadvantage anyway.

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :15

Combat Move - Russia
            3 Barques, 1 Brigantine, 3 Cutters and 2 Frigates moved from SZ2 to SZ3
            4 Dragoonss and 2 Horse_Artillerys moved from Finland to Novgorod
            1 Cuirassiers, 7 Dragoonss, 4 Horse_Artillerys and 2 Kutusovs moved from Odessa to Astrakahn
            2 Cuirassierss, 10 Dragoonss, 5 Fusilierss, 6 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Hussars and 3 Mortarss moved from Mordvins to Astrakahn
            1 Hussars moved from Tsaritsyn to Astrakahn
            1 Fusiliers moved from Odessa to SZ101
            1 Fusiliers moved from SZ101 to Astrakahn
            1 Fusiliers moved from Odessa to Mordvins
            1 Cuirassiers and 1 Dragoons moved from Kazan to Astrakahn
            3 Cuirassierss, 7 Dragoonss, 2 Fusilierss, 4 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Hussars moved from Palestine to Sinai

Purchase Units - Russia
            Russia buy 2 Brigantines, 2 Cuirassierss, 2 Cutters and 2 Fusilierss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Russia
            Battle in Sinai
                Russia attack with 3 Cuirassierss, 7 Dragoonss, 2 Fusilierss, 4 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Hussars
                OttomanEmpire defend with 1 Chasseurs
                    Russia roll dice for 3 Cuirassierss, 7 Dragoonss, 2 Fusilierss, 4 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Hussars in Sinai, round 1 :  6/1 hits
                    France roll dice for 1 Chasseurs in Sinai, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Chasseurs owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Sinai
                Russia win, taking Sinai from France with 3 Cuirassierss, 7 Dragoonss, 2 Fusilierss, 4 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Hussars remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for OttomanEmpire: 1 Chasseurs
            Battle in SZ3
                Russia attack with 3 Barques, 1 Brigantine, 3 Cutters and 2 Frigates
                Sweden defend with 3 Brigantines and 5 Cutters
                    Russia roll dice for 3 Barques, 1 Brigantine, 3 Cutters and 2 Frigates in SZ3, round 1 :  2/1 hits
                    Sweden roll dice for 3 Brigantines and 5 Cutters in SZ3, round 1 :  2/1 hits
                    2 Cutters owned by the Sweden and 2 Barques owned by the Russia lost in SZ3
                    Russia roll dice for 1 Barque, 1 Brigantine, 3 Cutters and 2 Frigates in SZ3, round 2 :  2/1 hits
                    Sweden roll dice for 3 Brigantines and 3 Cutters in SZ3, round 2 :  2/1 hits
                    1 Cutter owned by the Russia , 2 Cutters owned by the Sweden and 1 Barque owned by the Russia lost in SZ3
                    Russia roll dice for 1 Brigantine, 2 Cutters and 2 Frigates in SZ3, round 3 :  2/1 hits
                    Sweden roll dice for 3 Brigantines and 1 Cutter in SZ3, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Brigantine owned by the Russia , 1 Cutter owned by the Sweden and 1 Brigantine owned by the Sweden lost in SZ3
                    Russia roll dice for 2 Cutters and 2 Frigates in SZ3, round 4 :  2/1 hits
                    Sweden roll dice for 2 Brigantines in SZ3, round 4 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Cutter owned by the Russia and 2 Brigantines owned by the Sweden lost in SZ3
                Russia win with 1 Cutter and 2 Frigates remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Russia: 3 Barques, 1 Brigantine and 2 Cutters
                Casualties for Sweden: 3 Brigantines and 5 Cutters
            Battle in Astrakahn
                Russia attack with 4 Cuirassierss, 18 Dragoonss, 6 Fusilierss, 10 Horse_Artillerys, 2 Hussarss, 2 Kutusovs and 3 Mortarss
                OttomanEmpire defend with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
                    Russia roll dice for 1 Battleship in Astrakahn, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Fusiliers owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Astrakahn
                    Russia roll dice for 4 Cuirassierss, 18 Dragoonss, 6 Fusilierss, 10 Horse_Artillerys, 2 Hussarss, 2 Kutusovs and 3 Mortarss in Astrakahn, round 1 :  17/0 hits
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Marines in Astrakahn, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Marines owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Astrakahn
                Russia win, taking Astrakahn from OttomanEmpire with 4 Cuirassierss, 18 Dragoonss, 6 Fusilierss, 10 Horse_Artillerys, 2 Hussarss, 2 Kutusovs and 3 Mortarss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for OttomanEmpire: 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines

Non Combat Move - Russia
            1 General moved from Novgorod to Esthonia
            3 Artillerys and 3 Fusilierss moved from Novgorod to Esthonia
            1 Chasseurs, 1 Grenadiers and 1 Howitzer moved from Novgorod to Karelia

Place Units - Russia
            2 Cuirassierss placed in Mordvins
            2 Fusilierss placed in Odessa
            2 Brigantines and 1 Cutter placed in SZ4
            1 Cutter placed in SZ4

Turn Complete - Russia
            Russia collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs total

Territory Summary for Russia :

SZ101 : 1 flag, 1 Barque and 1 Battleship
    Astrakahn : 1 flag, 4 Cuirassierss, 18 Dragoonss, 6 Fusilierss, 10 Horse_Artillerys, 2 Hussarss, 2 Kutusovs and 3 Mortarss
    Wallachia : 1 flag
    Mordvins : 1 flag, 2 Cuirassierss, 1 Encampment and 1 Fusiliers
    Midian : 1 flag
    Tsaritsyn : 1 flag
    Minsk : 1 flag, 1 Fortress
    Odessa : 1 flag, 2 Fusilierss and 1 General
    Novgorod : 1 flag, 4 Dragoonss and 2 Horse_Artillerys
    SZ4 : 1 flag, 2 Brigantines and 2 Cutters
    Karelia : 1 flag, 1 Chasseurs, 1 Grenadiers and 1 Howitzer
    SZ3 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter and 2 Frigates
    Kirghix : 1 flag
    Finland : 1 flag, 1 Encampment, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Marines and 3 Mortella_Towers
    Crimea : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
    Sinai : 1 flag, 3 Cuirassierss, 7 Dragoonss, 2 Fusilierss, 4 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Hussars
    Macedonia : 1 flag
    Serbia : 1 flag
    Jordan : 1 flag
    SZ103 : 1 flag, 1 Barque
    Bulgaria : 1 flag, 3 Fusilierss
    Moscovia : 1 flag, 1 Capital and 1 Mortella_Tower
    Palestine : 1 flag
    Esthonia : 1 flag, 3 Artillerys, 3 Fusilierss and 1 General
    Moldavia : 1 flag
    Bessarabia : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 58 / 56
    UnitedKingdom : 42 / 40
    Spain : 44 / 37
    KingdomOfPrussia : 30 / 31
    Sweden : 23 / 23
    AustrianEmpire : 42 / 42
    OttomanEmpire : 33 / 34
    Russia : 49 / 49

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,000
        Median : 3,000
        Variance : 0,364
        Standard Deviation : 0,603
        Total rolls : 12

France Combat
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 5,000
        Median : 5,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

OttomanEmpire Combat
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 5,000
        Median : 5,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Russia Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,167
        Median : 3,000
        Variance : 0,400
        Standard Deviation : 0,632
        Total rolls : 6

Sweden Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 1,750
        Median : 1,500
        Variance : 2,000
        Standard Deviation : 1,414
        Total rolls : 4

[pug6000]

Same moves, but better results for you. 2 more Russian ships in the Baltic would have been horrible.

Sorry for the inconvinience.

Pug