They all had flaws…
Washington had slaves(not dealt with in his day).
Jefferson had slaves(not dealt with in his day) and MAY have had chilun by slaves.
Lincoln took the country to war over something that was STATES’ RIGHTS.
FDR knew the war was coming, so he manipulated the majority (isolationist) into a position where they could not refuse(not a great orator).
We can do this with all the presidents. The Clinton administration did a good job of dirtying up other presidents so Clinton didn’t look so bad.
My responses to some of your comments follow.
T_7,
PS: Barbra Bush for President!
Xi - Good call here, and I’d add Laura Bush for VP.
DEVIANT:SCRIPTER
I think the Republicans have a better overall job in the Presidential position then have the Democrats. (That’s just my personal opinion.)
Xi - Me,too, but I think they all have good and bad points.
T_6
Lydon Johnson was pretty good too (great admirer of FDR), though I think he tried doing too much too little.
Xi - He tried to manage the war. That’s what we got military leaders for . . . They militate and he presides( :P )
Nixon had a great foreign policy IMHO (though Watergate pretty much destroyered him).
Xi - Yup!
Time will tell his legacy . . .
Xi - In all prewsidents’ cases. I think we can only begin to get the full grasp of a president 50 years after his presidency(except in some cases[Clinton]).
(Yes, broke 2500 post! )
Xi - CONGRATS! You A&Amonger, you.
YANNY
I say Jimmy Carter because he was a great guy. He brokered the Egypt-Israel peace deal. He helped the Economy, and would of done great in a 2nd term.
Xi - Carter’s administration brought us DOUBLE DIGIT INFLATION(14% one year! I remember looking at new cars in shock :o and anger :evil: . For a 5 year loan at 20%(not exact due to payments) this works out to paying another 100% on the price of the car! HELPED THE ECONOMY? What alternate universe did you come from?
Clinton, obvious reasons.
Xi - It’s called CHARISMA when you are with him(BULLSHI- by those who recover when out from under his spell(Dems and Reps, both)
George W. Busch is the most radical conservative we’ve ever had in our Government, worse than even Reagan. Not a single President (wartime or otherwise) has taken away more of my civil rights. He is becoming a dictator. For example, his fancy lawyers have announced he can legally go into Iraq without a word from Congress. And you can be sure he will if Congress denies him.
Xi - The US Congress has given him the green light in civil rights(not stopped) and the Persian Gulf War II(prior approval).
I didn’t like Reagan. Sure, he brought down the USSR, but he also fed more lies to the American people than even George W.
Xi - What lies?
EMUGOD
America has had 3 great presidents, one in each century. Washington, Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt. I think Truman was good and Clinton too. Kennedy was also good andprobably would also have been great if he would have served out his full term.
Xi - JFK is overrated due to his assassination. Although, he did lower taxes and this got the economy going(Reagan’s economic growth[1980-1998] gives credit to JFK[Clinton took credit for the great economy of Jan., 1993 -2000, but, the Bush41 mini-recession was over by about July, 1992. NOT to mention the fact that proof came out early this month that the Clinton administration cooked the books on the US economy for 1999 & 2000]).
YANNY
Thomas Jefferson is not to be overlooked.
Xi - You got dat riaght!
DEVIANT:SCRIPTER
EmuGod wrote:
Please convince ALL of us here why Clinton made a good president. There’s no way I’ll buy this one. Please don’t get suckered into what the Democratic party wants you to think about Gore and Clinton.
Xi - TOO LATE!
T_6
John Adams is one of my favorites, so is Teddy Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson. If only they weren’t so dogmatic.
Xi - I concur
Yanny
Eisenhower however felt it was his duty to impose Christianity on EVERY aspect of our lives. He’s why we have so many debates about it now. Before him, the government was much less involved with the church.
Xi - HMMM! Seems to me that the Presidents used the Bible in the Inaguration . . . the US Supreme Court and US Congress(both houses) opened daily sessions with prayer long before Ike came along. Try reading the writings and speeches of the great leaders of the US(not just presidents).
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I want bright colors, loud noises, good food, and sex with any woman, man, or animal that won’t inflict grave bodily harm upon my person. In the absence of these I would take pain, or in the absence of pain I would even accept death.- Xi