I have to concur with the others who have posted. A combined transport and infantry build for Japan on turn 1 is the way to go. If Russia took Manchuria on round 1, and if the UK executed the “Kwangtung Maneuver”, the only place left for Japan to build is Southeast Asia. While initially it MIGHT be safe (the US can take that factory using China and Sinkiang forces one time in 3, and later will threaten it with a southern island hoping fleet), it is too far from Russia to do any good, and forward progress against Russia proper is easilly blocked by Novosibirsk infantry units. Japan HAS to focus on gaining IPC’s in round 1 in order to sustain a transport invasion of Russia through the back door (Manchuria to Yakut to Novosibirsk to Russia). Also, as Japan builds a transport navy (protect by heavy naval forces that were NOT sacrificed against the US at Hawaii) the US has to garrison Alaska heavilly (that japanease transport fleet ferrying troops to Manchuria is a single move away from an all out invasion of Alaska too). That reduces the number of US dollars that can be spent on the European war, allowing Germany to maintain the frontal assault on Russia that eventually leads to Japan taking Russia. So for an opening move, Japan re-takes Manchuria, takes Australia, blasts the results of the Kwantung Maneuver (if executed) or takes China using air force and Kwantung infantry. If Japan still holds Manchuria, they assault Yakut and take it. If the UK builds in India, that simply takes more pressure off Germany and allows THEM to take Russia, aided by the threat floating through the Siberian lands… too far from India for UK to do a darn thing about. YAKUT is the key for Japan. Take it and hold it, you have one territory with all of your west-marching forces to defend it from the Russians, and you force Russia to try to defend TWO territories against your massing forces. The drain on Russia: defending Evenk AND Novosibirsk plus holding Karelia and the Caucuses with an income of only 20 or so IPC’s is FATAL, REGARDLESS of UK and US support. And with Russia gone, the Alllies WILL lose (economic victory is immediate on taking Russia, world domination only a few moves away)
How to Kill the USA as Japan?
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I’m a veteran player of Japan, and categorically speaking, you shouldn’t fight the USA in the Pacific, other than destroying forces at Pearl on T1. But I constantly try to think of ways to defeat the USA. I was curious to see if anyone out there has any good ideas on this subject.
I’ve managed to take LA and Panama before, but I can never hold them for long. Perhaps I simply am buying the wrong units. When I go to take LA, here’s what I use: 1-2 Battleships, 1 AC with 2 Fighters, 1 Bomber, 2 Transports with 2 Infantry each. Of course this entails taking Peral or Midway first, and preferrably Alaska too.
The problem I find is that America sees you coming a mile away and can build up a nice little force in DC to step right over and squash you the moment you take LA. You’re left with this awesome navy sitting there and incapable of doing squat. 4 Infantry just can’t hold IMHO.
Anybody have some ideas that might be useful?
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Well Im glad to see your doing something other than the usual.
I dont really have an answer for you, I haven’t thought it through.
But, I agree 4 infantry is certainly not enough to hold the Western States. -
Japan will never be able to take the USA. However:
There is a mythical Japanese strategy out there that has yet to be discovered. It involves Japan putting equal amounts of pressure on Russia and the US with the idea that Germany would have some relief from the US but would face more pressure from Russia.
If you can find this White Elephant, you will be one famous Samurai!
We ought to put all of our heads together and try to figure it out just for fun, with the understanding that it will never be as effective as going after Russia full steam.
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On rare occations I will send a continuous stream of troops into Alaska; the US generally doesn’t precieve this as too much of a threat and will bolster their defences, allowing Japan to keep Alaska. If they do make this fatal mistake, a large mass of troops can be built and used to take most of N. America, and with proper support (granted the Japanese have enough resources to build it) even the US can be taken out. Don’t expect the US to allow Japan a foothold in N. America twice though.
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hey yeah its probably not going to eer work but in general terms im sure eeryone will think im stupid for is yeah itll take an act of god for japan to take small palces taking away the us adantage. this will greatly help the cause
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you can’t kill the USA as Japan, for the simple fact that the USA is a land mass and you can’t kill land masses because they aren’t alive.
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har-har :roll:
Anyways, don’t invade USA, you’ll just get 200+ million, (or was it only 100+ back then?) red blooded Americans that all have access to firearms. Not very easy to do if you plan on planting the Rising Sun over DC.
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If Russia has fallen, Japan can invade through South America while Germany wipes out the American navy so that Brazil can’t be liberated. A factory there would also be nice.
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Usually I go tech heavy for Japan and Germany before I invade USA and/or UK (that is if they decide to fight on). With IT and heavy bmb, the rest is almost to easy - almost. 8)
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There is a mythical Japanese strategy out there that has yet to be discovered. It involves Japan putting equal amounts of pressure on Russia and the US with the idea that Germany would have some relief from the US but would face more pressure from Russia.
AB,
In the last line of the quote did you mean “…but would put more pressure on Russia.” ?Anybody want to move to New Jersey, become a US Senator, accept bribes, only have to give the non-financial gifts back, and get a slap on the wrist from the US Senate, while the dude who bribes you has to serve time in prison? Reminds me of the good old days back in Chappaquidic(sp.?). Sorry, just got a little nostalgic.
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