Thank you! Seems like G2 is better than G3.
German strategy for the world game
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@Dylan:
@Dylan:
Germany building a navy? That’s why I was able to take Germany on the 2nd turn: you built few land units and the many you did have, you moved all to eastern Europe. A German Navy is not the ideal strategy; it just gets wiped out from the air with the help of carriers if it ventures out of the Baltic. You think the Italian navy can destroy the US Navy? Italy will probably be at 20-30 ipc, whle the US is at 50-60.
I needed to make better use of my air force, and risk it against the Royal Navy, but was too late.
I should of bought the Carrier after I had a good navy
Well, one thing that might have helped would have been if you put your fighters on the carrier you built. If you don’t put planes on a carrier, it’s worse than a destroyer! Only on turn 1 would that be viable: 1 sub, 1 ftr, 1 bmr vs 1 sub, 1 battleship is a standard attack. On the second turn, you had 2 subs and 3 fighters and a bomber against my 2 destroyers, battleship, carrier, and 2 fighters. I still would’ve won that.
Now you’re the one who puts your response in the quote box :roll:
No, you should not bother with a navy(or at least just stop at the carrier) and focus on Russia. The UK is not going to be successfully invaded if a good player is playing it
Grr and why can`t London fall? It is quite possible
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No, it’s not. Especially if they build 10 inf a turn. For every 2 inf they build, you have to build an in, art, and trans, so you quickly run out of money
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No, it’s not. Especially if they build 10 inf a turn. For every 2 inf they build, you have to build an in, art, and trans, so you quickly run out of money
I doubt UK can afford pay 10 infs each round. Remember than now they cannot use the money from Pacific side or the money from Free France (that is going to be wasted because of the silly capture capital rule), so I doubt that UK is going to colect 30 each round, and even if it’s so, they will need feed the SAF IC or Germany and Italy are going to eat african income pretty soon
It’s pretty possible that a german navy is going to be a valid option as it was in AA50. The question is if it’s going to be too good and unbalance Global40 in the same way that AA50 was. Other point is that, given current rules (capital sacking and more), Sea Lion should not be a valid strat unless that UK gets careless, or the games are going to be too quick
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No, it’s not. Especially if they build 10 inf a turn. For every 2 inf they build, you have to build an in, art, and trans, so you quickly run out of money
I doubt UK can afford pay 10 infs each round. Remember than now they cannot use the money from Pacific side or the money from Free France (that is going to be wasted because of the silly capture capital rule), so I doubt that UK is going to colect 30 each round, and even if it’s so, they will need feed the SAF IC or Germany and Italy are going to eat african income pretty soon
The UK will be about 8, Africa will easily be over 12, giving them 20. West India is 2, and Canada is 6-7. That’s enough for 9 inf
It’s pretty possible that a german navy is going to be a valid option as it was in AA50. The question is if it’s going to be too good and unbalance Global40 in the same way that AA50 was. Other point is that, given current rules (capital sacking and more), Sea Lion should not be a valid strat unless that UK gets careless, or the games are going to be too quick
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Best strategy I have found with Germany in AA50 is to buy a submarine and a fighter for the Battle of the Atlantic each turn. Keep the submarines in different sea zones and it causes Britain to buy destroyers, and when Britain puts its navy in range of your air force you destroy it without any chance of counterattack. Also the air force can take care of any American fleet that comes over, and with the rest of your money you fight the USSR. Now in the new game with the convoy rules I feel this strategy will work even better, submarines will drain Britain of resources and keep their navy spread out and busy.
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No, it’s not. Especially if they build 10 inf a turn. For every 2 inf they build, you have to build an in, art, and trans, so you quickly run out of money
I doubt UK can afford pay 10 infs each round. Remember than now they cannot use the money from Pacific side or the money from Free France (that is going to be wasted because of the silly capture capital rule), so I doubt that UK is going to colect 30 each round, and even if it’s so, they will need feed the SAF IC or Germany and Italy are going to eat african income pretty soon
It’s pretty possible that a german navy is going to be a valid option as it was in AA50. The question is if it’s going to be too good and unbalance Global40 in the same way that AA50 was. Other point is that, given current rules (capital sacking and more), Sea Lion should not be a valid strat unless that UK gets careless, or the games are going to be too quick
I think the UK will have around 30 ipc to start (or more) in E40 + its NO, it has 24 ipc on that side of the board in AA50. Have you seen how many tt there are in the Middle East (pro neutral), and Africa that UK can get its hands on from the sneak peek we got the other day. In Africa you just have the French vacate their tt (head towards Egypt or S Africa IC to reinforce), then let the greedy Italians take the French tt temporarily. Then recapture them w/UK or US, giving more $ to the allies. I also think the capital rules could be reworked, but this is what we got, so you just have to make them work for you.
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Best strategy I have found with Germany in AA50 is to buy a submarine and a fighter for the Battle of the Atlantic each turn. Keep the submarines in different sea zones and it causes Britain to buy destroyers, and when Britain puts its navy in range of your air force you destroy it without any chance of counterattack. Also the air force can take care of any American fleet that comes over, and with the rest of your money you fight the USSR. Now in the new game with the convoy rules I feel this strategy will work even better, submarines will drain Britain of resources and keep their navy spread out and busy.
Yea I’ve found air & subs work best for Germany (in AA50). You build subs and eventually UK comes into range. Subs are cheap enough, and German air power is key (multi-task). Your 100% right about subs pulling double duty now that they can raid convoy’s too. The German player just got a new toy (awesome). In 40E (or global) the German starting navy might be worth investing in though w/Baltic out of UK air range and the Danish Straight. Better hold on to Norway :-D As usual though Germans building navy will cost them in the land battle.
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@WILD:
I think the UK will have around 30 ipc to start (or more) in E40 + its NO, it has 24 ipc on that side of the board in AA50. Have you seen how many tt there are in the Middle East (pro neutral), and Africa that UK can get its hands on from the sneak peek we got the other day. In Africa you just have the French vacate their tt (head towards Egypt or S Africa IC to reinforce), then let the greedy Italians take the French tt temporarily. Then recapture them w/UK or US, giving more $ to the allies
We have yet to know how Middle East neutrals work … and it’s pretty possible than or USSR takes some of them or that UK will need 2-3 turns to take all of them if Italy doesn’t take them first
As for Free France territories, I guess that best strat for Italy is ignoring them (with the probable exception of Morocco and maybe Syria if they are involved in NOs) and taking UK territories, aiming for SAF IC (we have some precedents of guys ignoring or semi-ignoring certain minor power because of some certain rule)
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@WILD:
I think the UK will have around 30 ipc to start (or more) in E40 + its NO, it has 24 ipc on that side of the board in AA50. Have you seen how many tt there are in the Middle East (pro neutral), and Africa that UK can get its hands on from the sneak peek we got the other day. In Africa you just have the French vacate their tt (head towards Egypt or S Africa IC to reinforce), then let the greedy Italians take the French tt temporarily. Then recapture them w/UK or US, giving more $ to the allies
We have yet to know how Middle East neutrals work … and it’s pretty possible than or USSR takes some of them or that UK will need 2-3 turns to take all of them if Italy doesn’t take them first
As for Free France territories, I guess that best strat for Italy is ignoring them (with the probable exception of Morocco and maybe Syria if they are involved in NOs) and taking UK territories, aiming for SAF IC (we have some precedents of guys ignoring or semi-ignoring certain minor power because of some certain rule)
If it’s pro-ally, you walk in during NCM and it’s yours(and you get those inf). The UK troops in West India can easily secure the pro-ally Iran. I’m not sure if Russia can capture neutrals before it’s at war, though.
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@WILD:
In 40E (or global) the German starting navy might be worth investing in though w/Baltic out of UK air range and the Danish Straight. Better hold on to Norway :-D As usual though Germans building navy will cost them in the land battle.
I was thinking a German navy in the Baltic could be helpful in the fight against the Soviet Union; the Soviet Union is huge and being able to bring troops over to Leningrad and other Baltic states could be huge.
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@WILD:
I think the UK will have around 30 ipc to start (or more) in E40 + its NO, it has 24 ipc on that side of the board in AA50. Have you seen how many tt there are in the Middle East (pro neutral), and Africa that UK can get its hands on from the sneak peek we got the other day. In Africa you just have the French vacate their tt (head towards Egypt or S Africa IC to reinforce), then let the greedy Italians take the French tt temporarily. Then recapture them w/UK or US, giving more $ to the allies
We have yet to know how Middle East neutrals work … and it’s pretty possible than or USSR takes some of them or that UK will need 2-3 turns to take all of them if Italy doesn’t take them first
As for Free France territories, I guess that best strat for Italy is ignoring them (with the probable exception of Morocco and maybe Syria if they are involved in NOs) and taking UK territories, aiming for SAF IC (we have some precedents of guys ignoring or semi-ignoring certain minor power because of some certain rule)
If it’s pro-ally, you walk in during NCM and it’s yours(and you get those inf). The UK troops in West India can easily secure the pro-ally Iran. I’m not sure if Russia can capture neutrals before it’s at war, though.
i don’t think iran, iraq and such were pro-allies, probably neutral, perhaps even pro-axis (as they were anti-british in real)
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@Frontovik:
@WILD:
I think the UK will have around 30 ipc to start (or more) in E40 + its NO, it has 24 ipc on that side of the board in AA50. Have you seen how many tt there are in the Middle East (pro neutral), and Africa that UK can get its hands on from the sneak peek we got the other day. In Africa you just have the French vacate their tt (head towards Egypt or S Africa IC to reinforce), then let the greedy Italians take the French tt temporarily. Then recapture them w/UK or US, giving more $ to the allies
We have yet to know how Middle East neutrals work … and it’s pretty possible than or USSR takes some of them or that UK will need 2-3 turns to take all of them if Italy doesn’t take them first
As for Free France territories, I guess that best strat for Italy is ignoring them (with the probable exception of Morocco and maybe Syria if they are involved in NOs) and taking UK territories, aiming for SAF IC (we have some precedents of guys ignoring or semi-ignoring certain minor power because of some certain rule)
If it’s pro-ally, you walk in during NCM and it’s yours(and you get those inf). The UK troops in West India can easily secure the pro-ally Iran. I’m not sure if Russia can capture neutrals before it’s at war, though.
i don’t think iran, iraq and such were pro-allies, probably neutral, perhaps even pro-axis (as they were anti-british in real)
Iran is pro-ally; Iraq is pro-axis
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@WILD:
In 40E (or global) the German starting navy might be worth investing in though w/Baltic out of UK air range and the Danish Straight. Better hold on to Norway :-D As usual though Germans building navy will cost them in the land battle.
I was thinking a German navy in the Baltic could be helpful in the fight against the Soviet Union; the Soviet Union is huge and being able to bring troops over to Leningrad and other Baltic states could be huge.
Yea thats what I’m counting on too. It will be nice to be able to use the Baltic past the 2nd turn. In AA50 if Germany didn’t spend a ton of $ on navy, it was gone. Now I hope just a few pieces will keep it in tact, along w/strategic tt like Norway, and other Baltic coastal tt.
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No, it’s not. Especially if they build 10 inf a turn. For every 2 inf they build, you have to build an in, art, and trans, so you quickly run out of money
Look, Italy has an edge over Britain in Africa and the Middle East most likely, with being close to North Africa, thats so much losses after a while, and if Germany is doing their job, and their bitch is doing their job, they should be fine.
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@Dylan:
No, it’s not. Especially if they build 10 inf a turn. For every 2 inf they build, you have to build an in, art, and trans, so you quickly run out of money
Look, Italy has an edge over Britain in Africa and the Middle East most likely, with being close to North Africa, thats so much losses after a while, and if Germany is doing their job, and their b**** is doing their job, they should be fine.
An edge over Britain? Britain has a FACTORY in Africa and the only pro-axis Midlle Eastern Country, Iraq, is easily invadable from West India. Besides, Iraq doesn’t touch the Med, so Italy will have to go through Syria or Jordan to reach it. Italy is close to N Africa, but the British can sink their transports, preventing reinforcements like they did historically. Tanks built in S Africa can reach Egypt in 2 turns.
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@Dylan:
No, it’s not. Especially if they build 10 inf a turn. For every 2 inf they build, you have to build an in, art, and trans, so you quickly run out of money
Look, Italy has an edge over Britain in Africa and the Middle East most likely, with being close to North Africa, thats so much losses after a while, and if Germany is doing their job, and their b**** is doing their job, they should be fine.
An edge over Britain? Britain has a FACTORY in Africa and the only pro-axis Midlle Eastern Country, Iraq, is easily invadable from West India. Besides, Iraq doesn’t touch the Med, so Italy will have to go through Syria or Jordan to reach it. Italy is close to N Africa, but the British can sink their transports, preventing reinforcements like they did historically. Tanks built in S Africa can reach Egypt in 2 turns.
Even if Italy can not do it alone Japan will most likely make it through, also I am sure Italy can build at least a minor IC in Africa, might need to get pass Egypt to do it their.
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@Dylan:
@Dylan:
No, it’s not. Especially if they build 10 inf a turn. For every 2 inf they build, you have to build an in, art, and trans, so you quickly run out of money
Look, Italy has an edge over Britain in Africa and the Middle East most likely, with being close to North Africa, thats so much losses after a while, and if Germany is doing their job, and their b**** is doing their job, they should be fine.
An edge over Britain? Britain has a FACTORY in Africa and the only pro-axis Midlle Eastern Country, Iraq, is easily invadable from West India. Besides, Iraq doesn’t touch the Med, so Italy will have to go through Syria or Jordan to reach it. Italy is close to N Africa, but the British can sink their transports, preventing reinforcements like they did historically. Tanks built in S Africa can reach Egypt in 2 turns.
Even if Italy can not do it alone Japan will most likely make it through, also I am sure Italy can build at least a minor IC in Africa, might need to get pass Egypt to do it their.
Japan? They take 5-7 turns to capture East India. They’re not going to be doing anything Africa-related for a long while.
I doubt Italy will have any tt which 3 or more ipc in Africa. Maybe Libya will be 2, but that’s a waste of 12 ipcs just to build a factory when transports would suffice. Italy cannot bypass Egypt; the Sahara prevents this. Egypt is the key to Africa, the Middle East, and India. Thus, in a Global game, taking it should not be easy(like in ALL other games)
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@Dylan:
@Dylan:
No, it’s not. Especially if they build 10 inf a turn. For every 2 inf they build, you have to build an in, art, and trans, so you quickly run out of money
Look, Italy has an edge over Britain in Africa and the Middle East most likely, with being close to North Africa, thats so much losses after a while, and if Germany is doing their job, and their b**** is doing their job, they should be fine.
An edge over Britain? Britain has a FACTORY in Africa and the only pro-axis Midlle Eastern Country, Iraq, is easily invadable from West India. Besides, Iraq doesn’t touch the Med, so Italy will have to go through Syria or Jordan to reach it. Italy is close to N Africa, but the British can sink their transports, preventing reinforcements like they did historically. Tanks built in S Africa can reach Egypt in 2 turns.
Even if Italy can not do it alone Japan will most likely make it through, also I am sure Italy can build at least a minor IC in Africa, might need to get pass Egypt to do it their.
Japan? They take 5-7 turns to capture East India. They’re not going to be doing anything Africa-related for a long while.
I doubt Italy will have any tt which 3 or more ipc in Africa. Maybe Libya will be 2, but that’s a waste of 12 ipcs just to build a factory when transports would suffice. Italy cannot bypass Egypt; the Sahara prevents this. Egypt is the key to Africa, the Middle East, and India. Thus, in a Global game, taking it should not be easy(like in ALL other games)
So are you saying the Allies get a huge edge
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@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
No, it’s not. Especially if they build 10 inf a turn. For every 2 inf they build, you have to build an in, art, and trans, so you quickly run out of money
Look, Italy has an edge over Britain in Africa and the Middle East most likely, with being close to North Africa, thats so much losses after a while, and if Germany is doing their job, and their b**** is doing their job, they should be fine.
An edge over Britain? Britain has a FACTORY in Africa and the only pro-axis Midlle Eastern Country, Iraq, is easily invadable from West India. Besides, Iraq doesn’t touch the Med, so Italy will have to go through Syria or Jordan to reach it. Italy is close to N Africa, but the British can sink their transports, preventing reinforcements like they did historically. Tanks built in S Africa can reach Egypt in 2 turns.
Even if Italy can not do it alone Japan will most likely make it through, also I am sure Italy can build at least a minor IC in Africa, might need to get pass Egypt to do it their.
Japan? They take 5-7 turns to capture East India. They’re not going to be doing anything Africa-related for a long while.
I doubt Italy will have any tt which 3 or more ipc in Africa. Maybe Libya will be 2, but that’s a waste of 12 ipcs just to build a factory when transports would suffice. Italy cannot bypass Egypt; the Sahara prevents this. Egypt is the key to Africa, the Middle East, and India. Thus, in a Global game, taking it should not be easy(like in ALL other games)
So are you saying the Allies get a huge edge
No, I’m just saying the Axis won’t get a huge edge in that area like they always have.
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The side that gets air & naval superiority in the Med will have the advantage in Africa. Italy will have the only IC in the Med, so I would think they will have a slight edge early on. You know Italy will spend most of its $ there, where UK has a lot of other commitments (North Sea/Atlantic, India etc), so I don’t think UK will be able to match Italy $ for $. Most AA games start w/UK getting its A$$ kicked (especially its navy). I picture a UK rd2 last stand at Malta, with its navy and air for some reason. I could be way off, but I think Malta may be the only island in the Med w/allied air base (scramble) from the start. The only thing UK has going for it is it can consolidate its power before Italy’s turn, so it could be a tough nut to crack.
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