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Last Words: I hope this helps. I won’t go longer than 5 turns since you should know by then what to do. Now there are a number of inconsistencies in this strategy (like how much of Africa Germany takes or Japan going for India T1), but hopefully I was able to keep everything pretty standard to the best of my knowledge. If you have any questions, comments, clarifications, or corrections, please feel free to reply.
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Thanks for takin the time to write all that TG! Well, they certainly beat the official strategies posted on the site…they’re not THAT much good to me though, because I don’t play standard Axis and Allies much anymore. I play a lot of games with a lot of rule changes or variations. (such as that US vs USSR).
Being Canadian, I felt that I had to have a Canadian team in axis and allies :smile:. While not really historically accurate-Canada being a major world power in world war 2-I thought it would be kinda cool. So I printed out a bunch of miniature canadian flags, and glued them each onto a small cardboard circle, so that’s their country marker. I made their capital eastern Canada, and I put a large Canadian flag there, indicating their capital. Basically there’s no more UK team. Eastern Canada is now worth 8, and UK is worth 3. Canada uses UK’s units, obviously. At the moment, I’m playing a USA and Canada vs. Russia and Japan game. Just started round 4, it’s pretty fun so far…LOTS of naval battles!
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plots ways to up his post count like Moses
Good Strategies, but remember Germany and Japan can be unpredictable. Japan could attack Brazil and the American Transports.
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Well Chris, I play with a lot of different rules too. Hidden Submarines, Paratroopers, 2-bit battleships, A&A: Europe style Strategic Bombing, it’s all there and a bag of chips. In fact, I even helped rewrite a total overhaul of the game called Axis and Allies Diplomacy Style (it’s exactly as the game mentions), Axis and Allies World Domination Mode (again, exactly what it implies), and Drunken Axis and Allies Master (need I say more?). And then there are a few dozen historical scenarios, like 1943 and Patton’s Ride to Glory. These variants and conversion are great at providing a much-needed break after you had enough of playing the game umpteenth times.
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Yeah, I guess a lot of people are forgetting how much of a role Canada played in the war. Sicily, the D-Day Invasion, the Navy (don’t disrespect Canada’s Navy!), Italy, Canada played a role in them all. I also tried to get China involved in the war (it was also a major player), but it’s really hard against the dominant Japanese air force. I’ve made a scenario to shift the time period to 1937 and 1939 to give China a better chance (don’t want to unbalance things too much), and expanding China to other Asian territories. To make up the difference, I made the islands worth a lot more (for instance Hawaii is now worth an amazing 6!), so we do see many more great Naval Battles between USA and Japan. USA starts of neutral, but since Japan really needs to take those islands, they have to surprise attack and bring the “Sleeping Giant” into the war.
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Yanny, like I mentioned in the notes for the America strategy, a good way to really make times tough for USA and screw up their timetable is if Japan makes an attempt of trying to take territories such as Brazil and USA. Now generally, I don’t see this happening, and I planned my strategies according to what I’m use to. Remember, every strategy has its flaws! As Rommel once said, “A battle plan never survives contact with the enemy.”
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True, but, in your strategy, your fairly defenseless vs a Japaneese strike in the Atlantic. In fact, a South African IC could take America out for 3 or 4 turns.
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A short aside-
Y, I never really paid that much attention to the # of posts until today.
Are all posts made in the same visit given the same post #? All of yours and TGM VI’s have the same # don’t they?
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Yanny, can you explain to me how South African IC could take America out for 3 or 4 turns? I would think there’s no reason for one and a better IC (a even then I won’t
“waste” 15 IPCs for Japan) placement might be Egypt. -
Xi, thanks for the input! :grin:
I think my next masterpiece will be on Russia. It’ll take awhile. But I can’t wait to get the “trilogy” down on paper.
“Only the spirit of attack, born in a brave heart, will bring success to any fighter aircraft, no matter how highly developed it may be.” - Aldolf Galland
“Moral courage is the most valuable and usually the most absent characteristic in men.” - Patton[ This Message was edited by: TG Moses VI on 2002-05-29 20:12 ]
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A South African IC is one of the better options for Japan, to make use of their extra navy while diverting as little forces as possible from the push on Russia. Yanny can correct me if he’s talking about something else, but you can swing around South America very early and tie up the US in the Atlantic for a few turns with a pretty large navy operating out of South Africa. I believe he’s saying your strategy is overly susceptible to it.
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Constructive criticism: The theory behind the strategy is sound, but the execution is extrememly inefficient. You basically aren’t doing anything with the US on Turns 1,3, and 5!
Another slow turn of building up, but what do you expect from a country half an ocean away from the battlefront? "
Doesn’t that go against the very heart of your ATB strategy - doing as much as possible in as little time as possible?
This goes back to the initial conversation I was having with TM about the inefficient US play she was playing against - by delaying one turn and using Eastern Canada as your staging ground instead, you will be bringing troops to the Front each and every turn. Every turn you send transports back to the US East Coast is a wasted turn by the most powerful country in the game.
Instead of focusing on some of the specific tactical problems above, let’s zoom out and look at the overall strategy:
Basically, you are transporting 20 Infantry and 1 Armor to the Western Front in 5 Turns. At the end of turn 5 you have 8 transports in Eastern US ready to transport 16 infantry. That means on Turn 6 you will have transported 16 more, then, on Turn 7 you will have to go back to Eastern US and deliver more on Turn 8. Delivering troops every other turn, just like TM was talking about.
You can and should be delivering troops with the US on EVERY TURN, either to Norway, Western Europe, or Algeria. Buy Turn 5, it will be at least 10 infantry a turn.
Turns 1-7, you are basically transporting the following: 2,8,0,14,0,16,0
When you could deliver: 2,4,6,8,10,10,10,12 etc
Give me some time to work it out on paper and I will post it for you.
“A clever military leader will succeed in many cases in choosing defensive positions of such an offensive nature from the strategic point of view that the enemy is compelled to attack us in them.” - Moltke
[ This Message was edited by: Ansbach on 2002-05-30 13:41 ]
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Ok, below is an example of working from Eastern Canada, which is a much more efficient way to transport troops - I put it in quotes so that it is easier to read the whole thing. This is only meant to show the overall strategy, not be a specific turn-for-turn build, so for simplicity’s sake I have made two assumptions:
1.) Everything is being dropped of in a friendly Ireland, just to show total numbers. In reality, the troops would either be going to Norway, Western Europe, or Algeria based on the specific tactical situation of each turn.
2.) Japan is not going to inturrupt this supply chain. Of couse a good Japanese player will, but covering those responses is a completely different topic. Suffice it to say that the US should deal with the Japanese interference with as little disruption to the strategy below as possible.
1. USA (36 IPCs)
Buy 12 Infantry.
Move Armor to Eastern Canada
US Transport - 2 Infantry to Ireland
Remaining IPCs: 0
Income: 34 IPCs
Total Troops in Ireland: 2 Infantry
Total Troops in Eastern Canada: 1 Armor
Total Troops in Eastern US: 12 Infantry
North Sea: 1 Transport
US East Coast: nothing2. USA (34 IPCs)
Buy: 2 Transports, 6 infantry
Move 12 infantry from Eastern US to Eastern Canada
North Sea Transport - 1 Armor to Ireland
Remaining IPCs: 0
Income: 32 IPCs
Total Troops in Ireland: 2 Infantry, 1 Armor
Total Troops in Eastern Canada: 12 Infantry
Total Troops in Eastern US: 6 Infantry
North Sea: 1 Transport
US East Coast: 2 Transports3. USA (32 IPCs)
Buy: 1 Transport, 8 Infantry
NS Transport - 2 Infantry from Eastern Canada to Ireland
US Transports - 4 Infantry from Eastern US to Ireland
Move 2 Infantry from Eastern US to Eastern Canada
Remaining IPCs: 0
Income: 32 IPCs
Total Troops in Ireland: 8 Infantry, 1 Armor
Total Troops in Eastern Canada: 12 Infantry
Total Troops in Eastern US: 8 Infantry
North Sea: 3 Transports
US East Coast: 1 Transport4. USA (32 IPCs)
Buy: 1 Transport, 8 Infantry
NS Transports - 6 Infantry from Eastern Canada to Ireland
US Transport - 2 Infantry from Eastern US to Ireland
Move 6 Infantry to Eastern Canada
Remaining IPCs: 0
Income: 32 IPCs
Total Troops in Ireland: 16 Infantry, 1 Armor
Total Troops in Eastern Canada: 12 Infantry
Total Troops in Eastern US: 8 Infantry
North Sea: 4 Transports
US East Coast: 1 Transport5. USA (32 IPCs)
Buy: 10 infantry
NS Transports - 8 Infantry from Eastern Canada to Ireland
US Transport – 2 Infantry from Eastern US to Ireland
Move 6 Infantry to Eastern Canada
Remaining IPCs: 2
Income: 32 IPCs
Total Troops in Ireland: 26 Infantry, 1 Armor
Total Troops in Eastern Canada: 10 Infantry
Total Troops in Eastern US: 10 Infantry
North Sea: 5 Transports
US East Coast: nothing6. USA (34 IPCs)
Buy: 10 infantry
Transport 10 Infantry from Eastern Canada to Ireland
Move 10 Infantry to Eastern Canada
Remaining IPCs: 4
Income: 32 IPCs
Total Troops in Ireland: 36 Infantry, 1 Armor
Total Troops in Eastern Canada: 10 Infantry
Total Troops in Eastern US: 10 Infantry
North Sea: 5 Transports
US East Coast: nothingRepeat Turn 6
Now, this isn’t perfect but you get the idea. Ignore the tactical specifics of each turn and think of this as a generic template, then change the strategy to that of your own - hitting Algeria on US2 and Western Europe on US4 with big waves. You can shuffle around the transport buys and get different numbers of troops over to the Western Theater on different turns.
Also, you still don’t have to transport troops every turn if you just want to hit with a giant wave, but working from Eastern Canada will give you the option - which you currently don’t have. Plus you will be able to follow up a big landing with more reinforcements the next turn instead of just sending them back to the US East Coast.
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The short version of all this is that if you get your troops to Eastern Canada and deploy from there, you can hit somewhere every turn.
Also, for those of you who are unfamiliar with the Infantry Push on Germany strategy, UK can follow a similar strategy with smaller amounts of infantry and transports. Tag along with the US troops, and send everything along the following route: Norway -> Karelia -> Eastern Europe -> Germany. Unless you are playing with rules to help out the Axis like bidding, you can win 90% of your games this way. It will take a while if Germany is smart and builds mostly infantry, but if they buy too many tanks or send too much to Africa they will fall like a house of cards.
“A clever military leader will succeed in many cases in choosing defensive positions of such an offensive nature from the strategic point of view that the enemy is compelled to attack us in them.” - Moltke
[ This Message was edited by: Ansbach on 2002-05-30 15:33 ]
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TG Boozer!
Your strategy for US sucks@Q@
You suck! America sucks! i will kill you like adolf hitler! –---- Osoma!!! -
Nice - that’s the first dumbass kiddie-post I’ve seen in this forum - until now I thought we were all mature. I’m hoping Yanny can delete crap like this?
Thanks for your intelligent contribution to the discussion.
“A clever military leader will succeed in many cases in choosing defensive positions of such an offensive nature from the strategic point of view that the enemy is compelled to attack us in them.” - Moltke
[ This Message was edited by: Ansbach on 2002-05-30 14:09 ]
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its a canadian i think, hes infecting the forum with absurdity… Maybe the forum should require peaple to register before writing message, but thats only my humble opinion i dont want to tell you want to do.
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I forgot to mention one of the most important factors! By having your transports operate from the North Sea, every turn you are threatening…
Western Europe
Germany
Eastern Europe
Algeria… with a one-two punch from the UK and US, or a one-two-three punch to Eastern Europe with Russia!
“A clever military leader will succeed in many cases in choosing defensive positions of such an offensive nature from the strategic point of view that the enemy is compelled to attack us in them.” - Moltke
[ This Message was edited by: Ansbach on 2002-05-30 15:22 ]
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“TG Boozer!
Your strategy for US sucks@Q@”First of all, I know my strategies aren’t perfect. I know that. That’s why I posted them and hope to find some suggestions and comments. But at least I take pride in what I do, which is more than what I can say for you.
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FinsterniS, this is the first time I’ve seen you here. Welcome to a new domain :smile:
I’m intrested on what you have to say on the game strategies and principles.
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