PTV (Game 2) MuddSlinger (X+15) vs Nikola1975 (A)


  • TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 9

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 9
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 airfield, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 factory_minor, 4 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            3 submarines moved from 113 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 107 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 23 Sea Zone from Japanese
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in 107 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers
                    Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    2 destroyers owned by the Italians lost in 107 Sea Zone
                    Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 107 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the Italians lost in 107 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 bomber, 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27
                Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers
            Battle in 19 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 19 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 19 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 19 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 19 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 19 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 19 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 19 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 19 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 23 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 34 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 28 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to New Hebrides
            1 destroyer moved from 28 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 49 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 4 submarines moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 58 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Iceland to 126 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 126 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 destroyer moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 104 Sea Zone to 126 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 126 Sea Zone to Iceland
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 airfield and 1 factory_minor placed in Norway
            1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone
            1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone
            3 submarines placed in 11 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 11 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Kweichow
                Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow
                Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Szechwan
                Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan
                1 artillery owned by the Chinese retreated to Yunnan
                Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kwangsi
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangsi
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangsi
                Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Yunnan
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 2 PUs; end with 2 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 16 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 2 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 fighter moved from Eastern India to Sumatra
            1 fighter moved from Eastern India to Sumatra
            2 infantry moved from Norway to 116 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Western Germany
            3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Sinkiang
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Western Sinkiang
            1 fighter moved from Urals to Western Sinkiang
            1 fighter moved from Urals to Western Sinkiang
            1 fighter moved from Urals to Western Sinkiang
            1 mech_infantry moved from Urals to Northern Sinkiang
            1 armour moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
                  Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese
            1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Western Germany
                British attack with 1 artillery, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour; Italians defend with 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
                    Germans roll AA dice in Western Germany : 3/7 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    3 fighters owned by the British lost in Western Germany
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Western Germany, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Germany, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 aaGuns and 2 infantry in Western Germany, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 aaGuns owned by the Germans and 1 aaGun owned by the Italians lost in Western Germany
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Germany, round 3 : 3/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Germany, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Western Germany
                British converts factory_major into different units
                British win, taking Western Germany from Germans with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for British: 3 fighters
                Casualties for Italians: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 aaGuns
            Battle in Sumatra
                British attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sumatra
                British win, taking Sumatra from Japanese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Sinkiang
                British attack with 3 fighters and 1 mech_infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 mech_infantry in Western Sinkiang, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Sinkiang, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Western Sinkiang
                British win, taking Western Sinkiang from Japanese with 3 fighters and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Northern Sinkiang
                British attack with 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys in Northern Sinkiang, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Sinkiang, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Sinkiang
                British win, taking Northern Sinkiang from Japanese with 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            3 fighters moved from Western Sinkiang to Northeast Persia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Egypt
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northeast Persia to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            1 aaGun and 1 artillery moved from Baluchistan to Central India
            2 fighters moved from Sumatra to Burma
            1 aaGun moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma
            1 carrier moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway
            3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Norway
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
            1 artillery moved from Northwest Persia to Northeast Persia
    
        Place Units - British
            2 submarines placed in 100 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in Union of South Africa
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in United Kingdom
            1 transport placed in 112 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 destroyer placed in 73 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 43 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 62 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Eastern India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 18 PUs
            Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -0.83
    Americans regular : -3.00
    Japanese regular : 0.00
    Italians regular : -1.17
    Germans AA : 1.83
    Germans regular : -1.33
    British regular : -2.67
    

    Savegame


  • no need to re-do. wont make any difference. but in that battle against Italian fleet, future battles you can take the CC when you have alot of subs and leave a dd to maybe get a crack at a roll. thanks


  • man, I looked at my turn to do and I just cant believe how I cant seem to keep allies from making me collapse in Europe. its unbelieveable.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 9

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 9
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 cruiser and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
                  Germans take Romania from Russians
            5 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            3 armour and 2 artilleries moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 5 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 95 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from France to Southern Italy
            6 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
    
        Combat - Italians
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern France
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 cruiser and 1 submarine placed in 95 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 12 PUs; end with 13 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 18 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • @MuddSlinger Yes, you are right, I saw after I clicked through. I just confirmed what the game offered as casualties.


  • no worroes on that battle, would have made no difference. just for future with subs and dd


  • worries*


  • TripleA Turn Summary: French round 9

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 9
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 destroyers and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 destroyer moved from 47 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 64 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 49 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 49 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                  ANZAC take Algeria from Italians
            1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Sinkiang
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Northeast Persia
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Australia
            1 artillery moved from Queensland to Northern Australia
    
        Combat - ANZAC
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            2 destroyers and 1 transport placed in 64 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
            1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - French
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                French attack with 1 destroyer
                Germans defend with 4 transports
                    4 transports owned by the Germans lost in 97 Sea Zone
                French win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
                Casualties for Germans: 4 transports
    
        Non Combat Move - French
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • @MuddSlinger said in PTV (Game 2) MuddSlinger (X+15) vs Nikola1975 (A):

    man, I looked at my turn to do and I just cant believe how I cant seem to keep allies from making me collapse in Europe. its unbelieveable.

    Yes, it is a difficult situation now, not only losing one full turn of income, but also losing all big German factories.


  • you dont have to reply until you have time. But what exactly am I doing wrong? to me, it seems like I do build to try to counter the allies from making any landings in Europe and then not being able to repel the allies. it seems like anything I have been trying is just not working.


  • @MuddSlinger You are much better than in the first game we played. Especially with national objective bonuses.

    I might sit down later to analyze it thoroughly, once we finish, but it seems to me that you have let Americans invest too much into Atlantic. Japanese tactic of land only looks interesting, but lets Allies put much more into Europe, without worrying about Japanese win in the Pacific. I just need to counter you, no ships to threaten Hawaii, Australia or India.


  • ok. interesting on the Japanese non-threat in pacific. I can see how that would be a detriment to axis europe


  • Axis will concede yet again. lol congrats to you again!


  • @MuddSlinger Thanks, it is experience. You are playing fast and you are progressing fast, keep it on.

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