@aldrahill they are newer / different - better written rule set for SCW- look over them for yourself.
@theveteran Yeah they’re different in various ways - but why are they are there to begin with? And indeed, they have different sets as well.
I wish there was an actual explanation given about which one should be used, and how they actually differ.
@aldrahill admiral ruleset was made much more recently. The original SCW expansion was made years ago with V2 game in mind. The random events get removed in admiral edition and the stupid US intervention rule was changed along with many other differences.
@theveteran Crap, so I should be using the Admiral set instead? Wish that was mentioned on the expansion page :/
@aldrahill admiral ruleset is better than original expansion, so yes.
@theveteran Thanks for that. The rules of the Admiral Edition actually are very clear about the outcome of the Spanish Civil war. Same as the basic rules, Germany gets 1 infantry in Berlin until Spain is aligned with Germany. So that makes sense now.
Thanks for pointing out Admiral Edition. HBG should have just removed the other one from the website to avoid confusion.
@aldrahill it doesn’t need to be removed. It’s still an option to play with . The full intervention options for Germany / USSR are not available to play with in the admiral edition that are part of the original expansion.
@unicorn in the regular SCW expansion if USSR (Republicans) wins the war then they get a chance to influence 3 different countries (the chance is very low) and they do not get a free infantry unit every turn.
@theveteran I guess that is a balancing mechanism; Germany is only getting 1 infantry unit and the USSR is only getting 3 rolling chances on alignment. Seems like the regular SCW expansion rules are encouraging both Axis and USSR to keep that war as a stalemate so that each side can align their puppets once war broke out between Germany and USSR. It is a different way to play the SCW.
@theveteran said in Questions on the outcome of Spanish Civil War:
@unicorn in the regular SCW expansion if USSR (Republicans) wins the war then they get a chance to influence 3 different countries (the chance is very low) and they do not get a free infantry unit every turn.
I understood the SCW expansion as adding to the core rules and not replacing them completely.
There is also an explicit reference in SCW 1.3 to the normal rules « The Spanish Civil War is over
when (a) one side achieves victory per GW13.1 ».
Getting that free International Brigade in Moscow was one of the incentives for the USSR to invest part of its very limited budget towards the civil war.
If it is out of the expansion, I will probably keep house ruling it in.
@noneshallpass oh all expansions basically replace OOB rules . It doesn’t work to play OOB along with any expansion. For example, regular alignment conditons from OOB do not match with the diplomacy expansion at all… diplomacy replaces all OOB alignment conditions basically.
Yes the rewards for victory suck in the normal SCW expansion. But victory points are still worth fighting for in the SCW no matter the actual reward for winning .
In the v3 Strategy notes it is mentionned that an Axis victory in the SCW is worth “… (b) 1 IPP for Germany for approximately 12 turns, depending on when World War II starts”.
What does this refer to ?
@noneshallpass It’s another holdover from v2. It it one got +1 IPP/turn from having won the war, not +inf/turn. The V3 way is a little more valuable. :)
