L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3


  • I agree with your evaluations.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    I agree with your evaluations.

    Do U have some of Ur own?


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    Do U have some of Ur own?

    With normal attrition I think Axis would’ve persevered. Lost about 500 TUV on crap.

    Like I said before, it’s not to degrade your effort. You are a very good player and put serious pressure on my position in multiple directions. Still, I feel that with dice rolling more according to probability, there could’ve been more counter-pressure.

    Like when I lost 4 mech in Persia against 3 inf and 2 sb. You had 1,33 likely hits and hit 4. One of many examples. I counted on losing 1 or 2 mech and that made the difference of continuing to attack or the need to withdraw. And Japan in China and Pac was just insane on too many occasions to count.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    Do U have some of Ur own?

    With normal attrition I think Axis would’ve persevered. Lost about 500 TUV on crap.

    Like I said before, it’s not to degrade your effort. You are a very good player and put serious pressure on my position in multiple directions. Still, I feel that with dice rolling more according to probability, there could’ve been more counter-pressure.

    Like when I lost 4 mech in Persia against 3 inf and 2 sb. You had 1,33 likely hits and hit 4. One of many examples. I counted on losing 1 or 2 mech and that made the difference of continuing to attack or the need to withdraw. And Japan in China and Pac was just insane on too many occasions to count.

    Well I Can say the same just for sea battles. If it went on average, the axis would be broken sooner.

    Thats the thing with dice, we must accept it.

    The dice server is now pretty good comparing to previous years IMHO.

    I was at times thinking to play LL but i didnt start to play that way, since there is no fun as, with dice.

    Japan would last longer with better dice, but Japan wouldnt crack Chinese. The pressure in the Asian mainland after taking Korea was to huge IMHO.


  • I’m not so sure. With say 15 more land units (income included) I think Japan would’ve cracked the Chinese no sweat. Korea is a tough nu, but with control in the south it could’ve been taken care of at an appropriate time. The problem was that I could never seriously threaten the key square of Yunnan.


  • There were two or three big sea battles that went Germany’s way. Most of the small ones went the Allied way.


  • Thats my problem maybe, i dont remember the small ones, i count its ‘normal’ to have any result when there is 2-3 units involved xd


  • @trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    There were two or three big sea battles that went Germany’s way. Most of the small ones went the Allied way.

    Yeah but in big ones tuv difference can be 100. In small one its 4 or 5. But yes 20 x 5 = 100.


  • Like when I failed to take control of sz112 the first time with more than 80 % odds or you massacred me in sz6 with less than 20 % odds.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    Like when I failed to take control of sz112 the first time with more than 80 % odds or you massacred me in sz6 with less than 20 % odds.

    I had a bunch of subs in sz 6 and a strategic/tactical advance.

    But in was late in the game wouldnt change much.

    As for sz 112 I forgot to place AC there.
    And i had bad rolls there before, its nice i got it back (not the entire tuv minus but still much).

    And i ve rolled 5/5 there remember so u passed even ‘well’ as u could P


  • My sub in sz25 had an amazing moment once. That’s it. 😉

    Actually, I think the small ones are more sure. Atleast when you have +90 %. And I lost plenty of those.

    With lots of dice almost anything can happen. Something which saved Germany’s ass atleast twice.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    My sub in sz25 had an amazing moment once. That’s it. 😉

    Actually, I think the small ones are more sure. Atleast when you have +90 %. And I lost plenty of those.

    With lots of dice almost anything can happen. Something which saved Germany’s ass atleast twice.

    U can point that way, but its not the same to have 90% battle when u have units attackin on 4, and when u have those attacking at 2.
    But nominally its 90%, but its unpredictable.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    My sub in sz25 had an amazing moment once. That’s it. 😉

    Actually, I think the small ones are more sure. Atleast when you have +90 %. And I lost plenty of those.

    With lots of dice almost anything can happen. Something which saved Germany’s ass atleast twice.

    But maybe i also lost some small battles. Not as, u but did. I didnt look and count


  • Don’t remember any ac. And the mistaken roll was a sorry situation.

    Well, all in all a very well played game on your part. Would love to try it again. I’m not so sure of the validity of the all-out Chinese support, but perhaps I just lack rational insight.


  • I think U played pretty well but that I played better enough to win the game. The dice overall helped, or not distrupt my effort i can say, but i think that my win is deserved, and if U pulled 8 vc in europe or 6 in the pacific it would be deserved too, since thats the catch in this game, the axis can win even if they are weaker, or almost down at one side of the board


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    But maybe i also lost some small battles. Not as, u but did. I didnt look and count

    You definitely lost some small battles. Especially with Russia. It happened with the Chinese. Stilm the ratio was about 9:1.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    Don’t remember any ac. And the mistaken roll was a sorry situation.

    Well, all in all a very well played game on your part. Would love to try it again. I’m not so sure of the validity of the all-out Chinese support, but perhaps I just lack rational insight.

    I wrote to u that i wanted to buy it and then redo the buy and forgot it


  • Oh, I didn’t see that. Sorry. Would’ve contemplated it atleast.


  • When was it? Before I hit sz112 the forst time and failed?


  • @trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    Don’t remember any ac. And the mistaken roll was a sorry situation.

    Well, all in all a very well played game on your part. Would love to try it again. I’m not so sure of the validity of the all-out Chinese support, but perhaps I just lack rational insight.

    Well, i do not know too, but it worked in this game and i did not know U are an Elite player, with 5-1 win loss rating, so it was tested on a very strong opponent. But the thing is there was an element of surprise on my part which i would not have on any future battle with me as the allies against u

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