I’m sorry.
So the theory of gravity is bunk?
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just means, that if we can place these particles in a particular fashion, so could’ve nature itself (theoretically)
if in this theoretical world where some objects have been molded in this fashion, the objects could levitate.
if people lived through this, how would newton come up with his “what goes up must come down, and wondered why the apple falls down and not up”. it would be screwy b/c it would be that well things fall, except this thing, it just floats all the time. it doesnt seem to follow the rules.
thats what i’m saying.
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just means, that if we can place these particles in a particular fashion, so could’ve nature itself (theoretically)
if in this theoretical world where some objects have been molded in this fashion, the objects could levitate.
if people lived through this, how would newton come up with his “what goes up must come down, and wondered why the apple falls down and not up”. it would be screwy b/c it would be that well things fall, except this thing, it just floats all the time. it doesnt seem to follow the rules.
thats what i’m saying.
the second law of thermodynamics prevents this from happening. ( what the 1st one ? i’ve only heard about the second)
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I’ll claim the extra credit - I believe that nuclei stay together because of the “nuclear force” which at very close ranges is stronger than the repulsive force of magnetism between particles of the same charge.
That’s pretty much it in a nutshell…at least by our current understanding. But to be a little more specific, it’s the interaction between particles that compose the nucleons themselves.
A gold star for you. :-)just means, that if we can place these particles in a particular fashion, so could’ve nature itself (theoretically)
if in this theoretical world where some objects have been molded in this fashion, the objects could levitate.
if people lived through this, how would newton come up with his “what goes up must come down, and wondered why the apple falls down and not up”. it would be screwy b/c it would be that well things fall, except this thing, it just floats all the time. it doesnt seem to follow the rules.
thats what i’m saying.
Ok…I think I understand. But, frankly, your post really doesn’t have any value.
I mean, sure, if we had one thing in the world that defied our understanding of gravity because it levitated, then our theory of gravity would have a slight variance. I’m sure there would be multitudes of studies on why this thing gravitates, or why it doesn’t gravitate, but is perceived to, or why we need to do an experiment in deep space to see if any other anomalies occur.
However, science wouldn’t change - just our understanding and theory of gravity. That’s not what’s happening here, though. -
just means, that if we can place these particles in a particular fashion, so could’ve nature itself (theoretically)
if in this theoretical world where some objects have been molded in this fashion, the objects could levitate.
if people lived through this, how would newton come up with his “what goes up must come down, and wondered why the apple falls down and not up”. it would be screwy b/c it would be that well things fall, except this thing, it just floats all the time. it doesnt seem to follow the rules.
thats what i’m saying.
What I’m wondering is, are you saying that this proves something about science in general?
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this is such a pathetic,ignorant attempt to knock science…Gravity is infinite in range,you fool. You cannot cancel out the gravitational fields generated by the sun,the earth,your own body. You may be able to temporarily overcome the effects of gravity,but its constant and cannot be circumnavigated. thats why perpetual motion machines wont work on earth…gravity always is victorious…faster-than-light-speed is impossible due to E=mc2…theorectically,you can go 99.999% the SOL but not faster…it would take an infinite amount of energy and we dont have that much --duh…ignorant people like you need to read more…that means entire books-not just snippets from some AP news story…no wonder everyone thinks Americans are so dumb… :roll:
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i wasnt trying to knock science. science is useful.
i just thought this was a strange anomaly.
i know gravity binds everything in the universe, and its a constant law. i just thought this was a funny way to show that if nature had let it, we would have things that dont go with the laws of gravity. even if they still techinically are bound by the laws, due to they only levitate to particles pushing against each other, but it would be funny if newton tried to make his theory when things were floating around him.
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Ooh, that post was going to earn Mr. Hydra a smiting, but I got a session error… Grrr…
And I was going to applaud BL for his tempered response (Me! Egads! Applaud Balungaloaf! My nemesis ;) ) but then I saw that his post had been edited by ncscswitch.
Oh and Jermofoot - you mean the interaction between the two down quarks and one up quark that compose protons, and the two up and one down that make up a neutron? ;)
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AHH physics! :-o
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Oh and Jermofoot - you mean the interaction between the two down quarks and one up quark that compose protons, and the two up and one down that make up a neutron? ;)
Yup, that’s it. But there’s a bit more than that. Isn’t the universe interesting?
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As a fellow scientist, I’m impressed by Jermofoot’s well reasoned and patient responses- we scientists can be arrogant at times with our proximal knowledge of the natural world.
However, Balungalof, I think much of the confusion has to do with your concept of Newtonian Gravity. Newton’s theory of gravity (it is not a law, unlike his contributions to thermodynamics) simply stated that there existed an attractive force between two masses via gravitational potential energy. And Newton was almost exactly right. However, his theory fell short of explaining exactly “what” gravity is. That’s where Einstein came in with general relativity and improved (if not completely resolved) the question of “how” gravity occurs. However, with the blossoming field of Quantum Theory growing at the same time, gravity became a sort of conundrum as it was the weakest of the fundamental forces.
-extra credit for anyone who can list them
So now we have some new theories concerning quantum gravity that start springing up around this time while Einstein’s general theory gets scrutinized.
Fast forward to the present and we’ve again confirmed General Relativity with a new gravity probe launched by NASA last year, I belive. Einstein was completely right. And we still haven’t unified physics yet (despite the best efforts of string, and later, M-theorists). Maybe someday you can take the banner of the likes of Pauli and Einstiein and try to figure out a “Theory of Everything”!Ladies and gentlemen, that’s what makes science so special. It’s not a “religion” because we rely on physical, falsiafiable evidence which can be confirmed by repeated testing and statistical verification. The method is very beautiful, and I think it begs everyone’s respect before we start claiming that her major theories are “broken”.
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i know the theory of gravity is not bunk.
if you read everything here, you will see i’m just messing around saying how neat it would be if nature had allowed such a thing and such forces to let something levitate naturally on earth. our perception of gravity would have been pretty messed up.
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i know the theory of gravity is not bunk.
if you read everything here, you will see i’m just messing around saying how neat it would be if nature had allowed such a thing and such forces to let something levitate naturally on earth. our perception of gravity would have been pretty messed up.
If a frog had wings, it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hopped!
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If my uncle had boobs he’d be my aunt :evil:
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If my uncle had boobs he’d be my aunt :evil:
So, he has all the other parts necessary?
And if he gets old enough…boobs may just be in his destiny…
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LOL, ok if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle!
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Science is completely useless and meaningless.
Take this for example.
Dave conducts and experiment and gets the following results: 1,3,5,7
Dave now constructs a law off that. It happens to be X+2. You keep adding 2 to get the next number.
However Susan saids no, that is wrong. It goes by prime numbers. Hence the next number is 11 not 9 as Dave proposes.
Finally a thrid person saids, no both of those people are wrong. I can graph this thing and claim that the real results are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 hence the next number is 8. Dave did not find enough information to justify his results.
Yet a fourth person saids, well I have another theory. How about 1,3,5,7 then 10,13,16,19. For the first 4 numbers you add 2. For the second 4 numbers you add 3 and so on and so further.
Notice how each of these theories all explains the same data and can all be right. Sure you can do more tests and find more points. But no matter how much info you find, there will be an infinite number of possible theories to explain and account for those points.
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String Theory
M Theory
Quantum Foam
Unified FieldLets have FUN with this discussion!
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@ncscswitch:
String Theory
M Theory
Quantum Foam
Unified FieldLets have FUN with this discussion!
I unfourtantunly can tell you what 3 of those 4 things are. what is Unified field. does that ave to do with unify all the forces into a single force? like electromagnetic, strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force and Gravity all being traced back to its original force?
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Unified Field Theory goes back to Einstein, so it has been around a while.
A single theory that covers all energy types known and how they interact.
No working Unified Field Theory has yet been worked out (string, M, etc. all were results of trying to solve the Unified Field theory). And Balung may get a kick out of this with how this thread started… GRAVITY is the force that seems to be the ongoing problem child in working out a Unified Field Theory!
And that is the extent of what I am able to drag out of my brain on Unified Field theory :roll:
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@ncscswitch:
Unified Field Theory goes back to Einstein, so it has been around a while.
A single theory that covers all energy types known and how they interact.
yeah thats what i thought. I just didn’t know the name of it. I think Maxwell worked on it before Einstein. unifying electricity and magnetism.
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