Battleship bombard question

Welcome, Bapinurnose!

Yes, they can.

Welcome, jimboslimbo!

To be clear, subs always fire in Opening Fire, before other units.  The presence or absence of an enemy destroyer simply determines when subs’ casualties are removed.  In your example, there is no attacking destroyer, so the casualties from the subs are removed immediately and will not get a chance to fire.  If there had been an attacking destroyer, the subs’ casualties would get to return fire.  Note that a sub hit by another sub will always fire, as both are firing simultaneously in Opening Fire.

In this game you don’t need destroyers in order to hit subs with air units.  The fighters will get one round of fire before the subs can submerge.  An attacking destroyer would simply keep the subs from submerging (forcing them to endure additional rounds of attacks) until the destroyer was sunk.

Sorry about that Imperious Leader, I should have used the search function now that I think of it. I saw there’s already been a few times this question’s come up. Thanks though

Here’s a good thread on bidding

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=10438.0

Basically it boils down to how many units & IPC does it take to balance the game out.

Against a great player, you might need more…

I take it as I’m willing to play Axis for X IPC.

Also with heavy bombers, others use LHTR (Larry Harris Tournament Rules) where the most damage bmbs can do is limited to the total IPC value of the territory, some use 2X.  Yes, heavy bombers using OOB (Out of the Box) rules seem unfair but it’s still possible to win if you can go after the bmbs.  Deny the bmbs places to land, if all US/UK are buying bmbs than there is less ground troops, etc, etc.  Finding the right balance, but even than I would suggest going with the bid, and a few minor changes.  Take a look above LHTR is stickied.

Good luck and Good gaming!

NP.  Actually thought it was an abbreviation issue…

Yes, it does take 2 turns.

When you board an allied TRN, once on board you are “cargo” of the TRN.  That means that, upon boarding, you are part of the TRN, and your further movement passes to the TRN.  Then, on your nation’s NEXT turn, you can offload.

OM Page 31 :

Being carried on a transport counts as the land units entire move;  it cannot move before loading or after offloading.

(emphasis added)
Boarding is movement.  Offloading is movement.  Therefore, you cannot board, and them make another mvoement to offload in the same turn.

The real kicker for clarification is in LHTR.
LHTR uses the same wording in the description of transports… with one MAJOR clarification…

Land units belonging to friendly powers must load in their controllers turn, be carried on your turn, and offload on a later turn of their controller.

(emphasis added)

@ncscswitch:

Even if you are CERTAIN to lose at least 1 FIG in battle does not matter.

When are you CERTAIN?
in a game with real dice, there is a REALLY, REALLY big chance you’ll lose it, but you are never CERTAIN :-P  :evil:

Both land and naval units that engage in combat remain in the area of combat and cannot be moved in the non-combat phase.  Retreated units have to stay in the territory/sea zone they were retreated to.  The only units that can move after Combat (and in fact HAVE to move in almost all cases) are aircraft.

If you need a basis in reality for this rule, consider those forces to be being re-supplied, repared, reinforced, replacing casualties, etc. as well as securing the area, reparing damaged infrastructure (bridges, airfields, etc) during the non-combat phase.  For retreated units, consider them to be regrouping, replacing lost equipment, etc.