Could Germany have won "the Great Patriotic War?"

I have no idea if there were any of the new Protestant nations represented at the battle.
I suppose they were mainly Northern ones, as  the Med was  surrounded by older Catholic ones.
It is weird to think the ships involved were the same type used two millennia before and that they were still rowed by slaves or prisoners of war. How many went down with the ships too?

isn’t TROY a war movie? by the definitions provided?

Troy was made to sell tickets to women because Brad Pitt has his shirt off like 99% of the time. The Historical timeline and facts are sorta embellished and over hyped. I dont think it is a war movie because the story is mostly driven by characters and love interests.

“Professor Rape!” “No.” “Professor death!” “No.” “Professor Anthrax!”  “I like it!”

“My hovercraft is full of eels.”  “Do you waannnt to go back to my place, bouncy-bouncy?”

When my father was in his early 20s he enlisted into the Army during Vietnam.  He had a college degree, and the powers that be wanted him to become an officer but he declined preffering to go at it as a grunt.  He was newly married, and I had just been born when he made this decision.  He left shortly after and served his country for a year and was honorably discharged.

Sounds nice doesn’t it?  Ok, SPIN OFF

My father had no intrest in the military whatsoever, esp with the war going on.  He was contacted a lot by a recruiter who was trying to warn him that if he did not enlist he would be drafted eventualy.  My father would not join, and he was drafted.  On the day he got his draft notice he went to the recruiter begging him to let him enlist, because the recruiter said if he did enlist… he would not have to go to Vietnam.  The recruiter, knowing his situation being newly married and having a infant son “fudged” the date of my father’s enlistment to show that he had enlisted before he was drafted.  He was stationed in Germany, hating every second of it.  The ONLY reason he decided not to become an officer is because he detested the military so much.  Becoming an officer would have entailed him being in the military longer than what he had to.

My point to this, you can spin the hell out of this kind of thing.  Which is what I think some veterans do, not to mention any names cough cough Kerry Cough Cough (and others).

A derail on the topic, but I feel like saying it anyway.

My father is against the war in a big way, I’m not, and we argue about it some times.  The one argument HE can not use AT ALL is that Bush got preferential (sp?) treatment.  You can’t take the moral high ground after what happened to him.  My grandfather was not a senator, he was a janitor.

Well that’s different. So what you’re trying to say is that Germany fell apart after the war which is absolutely correct. Back to my original argument, WWI led to enormous social change that sparked the technological progress which led to the lifestyle we now enjoy. In Germany particularly democracy and progressive ideals had been supressed for generations, but after WWI this was no longer possible due to the chaos you describe. Additionally, an affect of both world wars has been the spread of democracy by the victorious powers of Britain, France and the US.

Again how would the world be different without the world wars. I think it would be more backward, less changed, less democratic, more imperialistic, but perhaps more stable because Democracy tends to breed instability.

Question, I don’t know the answer. Is China’s Government Elected?

Yes, most of the positions in the government are based on election, though often these elections are rigged. There hasn’t been once been a successful and smooth transfer of power (usually ending in bloody coups) since it went communist

China is experiencing more economic growth because it has become a combination of Communism and Capitalism.

I wouldn’t exactly call it communist. More like socialist.

On 2002-04-19 16:14, Mr Ghoul wrote:

What would you suggested they do.

Become less dependent on oil. Pull out of the middle East, 1st Saudia Arabia, and then on.

When the USSR invaded Afganistan, they got hit with numerous terrorist attacks. When they pulled out, the attacks stopped.

BTW, before the U.S. pulls out they should help the Israelis pull their people out of the West Bank and Build that Wall they so desperately need.

A&A original is far better than pacific and europe put together.as for diplomacy not enough players is a problem i run into quite a bit . that’s why it’s so cool when i get to play it.