Aa historical game (rough draft)

@SuperbattleshipYamato hard to argue against any of this really. The IJN was so far gone by this point in the war that there’s not really much they could have done to salvage their situation one way or another. The bit about the allies not having many LSTs in general is something I never knew before though.

@Coldwarrior1984

Reading this, I feel strongly you’re confused about the nature of the German defenses in Normandy. In combination, I feel you are overestimating the Allies ability to place smoke as precisely and in the quantity that would have been required to have a chance to accomplish the goal you lay out. I also feel you’re overestimating the effectiveness of smoke even if I grant that none of the above was an issue.

I’ve been to Normandy three times with tour guides. I’ve read everything from Ambrose and Osprey on Overlord. I’m tempted to repeat my initial post about why you don’t hear or see this tactic being performed en masse in the many assaults in the Pacific or Mediterranean.

I’ll just sum this up and say that the German fighting positions were not composed primarily of Saving Private Ryan style bunkers but widerstandsnest with Tobruks across so much acreage that a simultaneous precision smoke affect against all of them for the required time to get everyone ashore is less realistic that just a mass smoke bombardment of the beach area.

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@Witt

Thank you so much! I appreciate your input.

Here are a few more; the WWII-era US military videos are fun to watch, and the orchestration / performance of the service songs in question is quite lively and enthusiastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E3QIHivAqA
SERVICE SONGS - Soundies , The Caissons Go Rolling Along , The Marines Hymn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pagjJ3DAabk
SEMPER PARATUS - The United States Coast Guard Song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2YlbiyiuMc
Red Army Choir: Polyushka Polye (“Oh Fields, Our Fields”; music composed by Lev Knipper; lyrics by Viktor Gusev, 1933)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRvhEZuTeBE
Soviet Army March “Moscow in May” (music: Dmitry and Daniil Pokrass; lyrics: Vasily Lebedev-Kumach, 1937)

@Baron:

Does B-17 rather able to do same things than B-25 but at longer range with more payload ?

I read that some of these B-17 were based in Australia and succeed at attacking a few IJN ships?

Yes and no… you’re kinda talking the difference between a tactical bomber (like the B-25) and a strategic bomber (like the B-17).  The B-17 has longer range and a bigger payload than the B-25, but its also less maneuverable, and usually used for different roles (strategic over tactical bombing).

As with anything in war, there can be fuzzy lines that are crossed (B-17s used for tactical missions like bombing ships and B-25s used for strategic bombing, like the Doolittle raid), but generally speaking those two bombers were used for different purposes.

These are more quotes from other games

“when we prepared for operation sealion we were all given rain coats.”
German soldier

“the FFF are so good they take 4 divisions for the loss of one Evan if some of those divisions are armored divisions.”
Impressed English soldier

“the Americans are so rich they build battleships when we build destroyers.”
Herman guderan captain of the bismarck

“we don’t need AA guns we need Chinese soldiers.”
Lord lucius darvin British general of the Burma army

“sssir wwweve lost another 4 fighter wings!”
Japanese soldier to a supirior
“how?”
Japanese general
“5 Chinese infantry divisions!”
Japanese soldier

“The best Russian soldier is 200 times worse then the crapest German soldier ever.”
SS commander