How do you lay out a good Navy plan?

@BigPapaSmurf:

Ok so I finally found my Axis strategy,

Germany

Buy Battleship and Carrier round one, remaining rounds buy all tanks(until they arent needed). Russia may get all the way to Poland before being driven back but thats part of the plan.

Save the plane in Germany for the carrier(the rules dont forbid using planes in combat landing them in Germany and then loading them on the built carrier, but I dont allow this)

Ampibious assault Gibraltar, with the sub and battleship in tow(and french plane if needed) This prevents planes from the UK from hitting the south fleet on turn one.

Re-take Ukraine if nessisary with minimal forces.

Land all planes in France.

Don’t waste attack material on Russia till you get the tanks in play, just slow their advance down.

Leave the North fleet in port, destroy the russian sub with planes if it blocks.

On turn two kill any boats which block the path of the two fleets to sea zone 7 with planes and minimal boats. This will allow your fleets to converge at 7 in the non-combat phase. Leaving you with a massive fleet of 2Bats/1Car/2Fight/1des/+1-3 subs, use this fleet and the land planes to waste any transports that are built. It should take the allies three hopefully four turns before they can get rid of your fleet and start buying transport materials.

Japan
1)Buy two factories, Secure two of the East Asia zones for your factories.

2)Send all Asia Infantry to china with planes. Keep them alive to join the six tanks you are going to send through China each turn. If Germany holds off the transports long enough you should be able to overwhelm Russia on turns 5-6 with the aide of the first German tank waves… Obviously take any factory built in India and if America decides to build all out on the West coast then the Germans will have no trouble keeping Briton out of France.

Sorrry no time to go into more detail.

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this is an interesting idea but I have a couple of problems with it.  First off, what is the point? You can stop the allies from accumulating transports at first, but, what is to stop the uk from building an AC and a fighter and having the US land a second fighter on it.  There is absolutely no reason why UK should attack your navy at any point.  My philosophy on naval battles is that after like round 2 they are a really bad idea.  Which naval pieces attack better than they defend? None except for bombers.  If I thought your navy was super formidable I would buy nothing with uk on the first turn and then buy two carriers with planes.  The uk would be more than happy to trade blows on the defense in a naval battle.
My second problem is the tank purchase.  Buying nothing but tanks will not allow Germany to take Russia even if you started on the first buy.  I have tried many times.  If you had your fighters available there would be a chance, but without fighters there is no chance at all.
All and all I think this is a pretty good strategy though.  IMO Germany is doomed no matter what against an experienced allies player but this move would seriously throw off the usual ally strategies.

@gnasape:

TDJ that’s classic.  Mr. T. says “Tanks are strong!”  Is that from the Caspian Sub paper?

Blitz2: It never hurts to try but I would have to agree with both Dan and TDJ, buy ground forces.

It might work in AA 1942 but not really in revised?

It should be even worst in AA42: 1 less hit and 3 less dice points. Germany could ignore it, of course, and even mimic building tons of navy. Since you, as soviet, gave them time in east, Germany could buy a uber fleet to create havoc in allied fleets. A powerful german combo would be: take gib, kill z2 or z1, send 2 subs to English channel, buy, say, ac, bb, 2 inf, tons of subs or any other wicked combo (join fleets round 2 or 3, ouch!). UK will struggle to keep the pace, and USA cannot join the fight and also buy enough land guys to protect their rear/contest Africa (silly Bering strait icecap  :-P ) OR germans could still do the moves and simply make a tank rush while Japan does the same

In Revised, it could be interesting trying, but without a bid. I doubt it can work by the way, it’s just slightly better

A note: stick to Revised, it’s better than AA42 (KFJ is viable and also Polar Express)

A large part of the game depends on who the Allies decide to attack. They can decide between KGF (kill Germany first) or KJF (kill Japan first).

For people who are new to the game, I think a KGF would be easier to pull off. All the Allied capitals are near(er) to Berlin, so the logistics are easier. Also, Germany can threaten Moscow quicker than Japan if not threatened.

However, a KJF can work against players who are used to playing against KGF. It is usually best to go this route if Japan has a bad first turn, although I have won games where I had a KJF in mind before the game started. In this strat, your goal is to reduce Japan down to Tokyo and maybe a couple other territories, and to wipe out their navy. In this way, only a minimal Allied force is needed to contain them, and all attention can shift to Germany.

Note that I don’t mean to ignore the other axis power that you aren’t focused on. This is usually only a problem in KGF, and Japan can reach Moscow quickly if left unchecked. Usually the U.S. will deal with Japan a bit in KGF, and Russia will hold off Germany with a little U.K. support in a KJF.

As the Axis, you must identify if your oppenent is playing a KGF or KJF. The nation that is the focus of the Allied attacks must play defensively while the other nation kills Russia.

@wolfpackguy:

It should be about:

2 Carriers
2 Battleships
6 Destroyers
5 Transports
10 Subs

This is the amount I have in my set.

Great thank you!!!

Maybe I need to recall Rommel from Africa and have him and the 7th Armoured division come back and hide in plain sight in Berlin. Maybe scare off the Allies for a while!  :lol:

AC UK1 is standard for me, maybe UK2 but even if Germany don’t buy ftrs the UK fleet can be easily sunk.

And leaving that DST alive and the Suez open invites another problem…
A pretty nice UK fleet roaming the Indian Ocean.  By UK2 it can be 2 DST’s, an AC, 2 FIGs, 2 TRNs and a sub.  That puts them on par with Japan’s remaining fleet after Pearl…

cool i’m in. what do i do for dicey. i’ll check forum