Anti-Balistic-Missile-Defense

First, I don’t agree with those three countries having nukes. Hell, Pakistan and India are almost at war with each other! You’re talking about the death of BILLIONS (imagine the fallout all across the Asian border) should nuclear weapons be used. And if I remember correctly, USA actually slapped on sanctions of the two for testing nukes. As for Israel, it’s bad, but not as much. They have to defend their home country from attack (remember all the previous conflicts). However, I think Israel lacks the clear minded leadership in order to have the responsibility of having nukes. USA’s presidents weren’t the best, but at least they knew the consequences of what they were doing.

I don’t agree with sanctions, we need to take Saddam out, not sit back while he starves his people.

“So? I wouldn’t call the Israeli’s we gave nukes to responsible. I wouldn’t call the Pakistanis and Indians responsible. If we were in a major conflict, that we might lose, we would surely use our Nuclear and Biological weapons.”

We gave the Israelis nukes? I heard an American jet crashed with a nuke and they “developed” one, but I heard that by a pro palestinian british guy.

Israel isn’t like Iraq when it comes to stability…but pakistan and india???i trust them more than Iraq!

BTW Yanyy, what you said sounds like it was purposely imbedded in your brain. No offense, but you don’t know how many people I heard say, “But the uS was the only country ever to use Nuclear weaponry”! The atomic bomb that saved lives in japan is different from the ones of today.

“The atomic bomb that saved lives in japan is different from the ones of today.”

In the fact that they are much, much more powerful.

“I don’t agree with sanctions, we need to take Saddam out, not sit back while he starves his people.”

I can agree. What we should’ve done in the first place was oust Saddam right after Desert Strom. I think the charges of the wholesale murder of thousands of Kurds, political opponents, religious, and ethnic groups should be more than enough to fill the crimes against humanity list.

“I can agree. What we should’ve done in the first place was oust Saddam right after Desert Strom. I think the charges of the wholesale murder of thousands of Kurds, political opponents, religious, and ethnic groups should be more than enough to fill the crimes against humanity list.”

European Allies I believe pressured America to not press ahead. But that is only an impression I have, and i wasn’t old enough to understand how serious george hw was.

Offically, the Nuclear technology was “stolen”. But of course, offically, Delta force doesn’t exist. Ask any historian who is an expert in the field and you’ll learn that it was secretely given to the Israelis (kinda like how we sold weapons to the Iranians).

Offically, the Nuclear technology was “stolen”. But of course, offically, Delta force doesn’t exist. Ask any historian who is an expert in the field and you’ll learn that it was secretely given to the Israelis (kinda like how we sold weapons to the Iranians).

I am one of those people who is 100% against Nukes. We dropped the Bomb, that drop was justified, it saved Millions of lives on both sides. But, we do not have a right to say who can and cannot develope Nuclear weapons. What if Saddam Hussien said “Your not aloud to have Nuclear Weapons”, Horten how would you answer that?

“European Allies I believe pressured America to not press ahead.”

Hmmm… those Europeans! :evil: (j/k) Not sure if you’re right on that, but seriously, that UN action in desert storm was mainly the US action so we should’ve had the final say on things.

“I am one of those people who is 100% against Nukes.”

I am too (personally I wish Nukes were never around). But it’s foolish to think we cannot just plain get rid of them, no matter how much we want to. There’ll aklays be a country like China, India, Pak, or Israel suspicious of our or another countries’ intentions that they won’t (or at least secretly still have them). That’s why we couldn’t have nuclear arms inspections during the Cold War because one side couldn’t trust the other. USA cannot be the only innocent one in a world of hate.

“Offically, the Nuclear technology was “stolen”. But of course, offically, Delta force doesn’t exist. Ask any historian who is an expert in the field and you’ll learn that it was secretely given to the Israelis (kinda like how we sold weapons to the Iranians).”

quite the allies, huh? Its good that israel has the bomb because it brings stability to the middle east (as in he could get pissed off and launch chemical and bio weapons at israel…he wouldn’t do that now.)

“I am one of those people who is 100% against Nukes. We dropped the Bomb, that drop was justified, it saved Millions of lives on both sides. But, we do not have a right to say who can and cannot develope Nuclear weapons. What if Saddam Hussien said “Your not aloud to have Nuclear Weapons”, Horten how would you answer that?”

I would say, “I believe our country is a little more stable than yours, and the same with our leadership.”

“he could get pissed off and launch chemical and bio weapons at israel…”

Exactly what ‘he’ are we talking about?

“I would say, “I believe our country is a little more stable than yours, and the same with our leadership.””

Good answer! :roll: Bush may be dumb (even a Republican can make wisecracks about him :wink:) but at least he’s more responsible and clearheaded than that Saddam Isane. God knows what little “victory celebration” he has in store for the world want he steps down due to age. :roll:

@HortenFlyingWing:

“I can agree. What we should’ve done in the first place was oust Saddam right after Desert Strom. I think the charges of the wholesale murder of thousands of Kurds, political opponents, religious, and ethnic groups should be more than enough to fill the crimes against humanity list.”

European Allies I believe pressured America to not press ahead. But that is only an impression I have, and i wasn’t old enough to understand how serious george hw was.

I can’t remember that the europeans did that. For not taking Saddam out, i think there are multiple reasons:
(1) The war was about liberating Quwait, and the UN supported it for that.
(2) To keep the arab allies, the interference had to be minimal
(3) Who knows how the iraquis (sp?) would have fought if the declared aim was “unconditional surrender”, like in WWII the germans never gave up fighting, because they knew they stood with their backs against a wall (so to say).
(4) Who knows what Saddam might have done and ordered (in use of mass destructive weapons) when his very existance was threatened.

I’m more worried about the chemical, biological weapons that Saddam had in store for our little Allied Soldiers. However, I think it would’ve been worth the risk, rather than let him be the nuisance he is today.

And I would say, your American Goverment has killed it’s own, indiginous, people. It has used Chemical, Biological, and Nuclear weapons. Your country just has bigger guns and can rule through force.

@TG:

I’m more worried about the chemical, biological weapons that Saddam had in store for our little Allied Soldiers. However, I think it would’ve been worth the risk, rather than let him be the nuisance he is today.

yes.

[Prematurely] But cased closed!

@yourbuttocks:

ABMD systems:

Laser Based-Air bourne Laser, Space Bourne Laser.

Non-Laser Based- Aegeis, Patriot, Thor, and all the rest

Laser technology is only one part of it.

There is Patriot on it !?! I wish it’s a new version, these anti-missile were dangerous.

Oh god, those outdated Scuds? Come on, the Scuds were obsolete even when the Russians had them. And most of the Scuds Iraq had were “has-beens” from the Iraq-Iran War. :wink:

But the other missile platforms are some of the best. The Aegeis missile system will plain knock out any missile from the sky given half a chance

they reached israel alright!

And the V1 “Buzz bombs” hit London alright. Still, unless those are tactical nukes (and the Scuds Saddam used were only HE’s), accuracy counts for a whole lot. Saddam wasted his scuds on some civilian buildings and many of them landed way off their intended targets. (Of course, Saddam was really trying to incite the Israelites into the war so, accuracy and damage assessment wasn’t key)