The FAQ Thread
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@insanehoshi The new troops from Iraq are not able to make and « additional » sequence of combat moves, as they did not take part in the first combat moves because thew were not yet aligned to Germany at the start of the turn.
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@noneshallpass
@insaneHoshi
It says:
“Once per game, and prior to January 1941, all German land and air units may make an additional sequence of combat moves, combat (including blitz) and non-combat movement. The second round of attacks takes place immediately after the end of the first non-combat movement. Units with blitz may use this ability both rounds if possible”
To me the “all” is key. If Iraq aligns in the combat phase, and you start the next impulse at the end of non-com, then the Iraqi infantry is a German unit by that point and can make a move. there is nothing about starting the turn German. You could do the same with Slovakia or Romania. -
I was looking in the rulebook for the part about not being able to move units that you didn’t control at the start of the turn and I couldn’t find it. Anyone? At combat movement it just says you can move all units you want to be involved in combat …. (Nothing about controlling since the start of the turn. Reference is 8.2
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A couple of questions, first, I have seen people saying the winner of the Spanish Civil War stops making recruitment rolls, but I can not find that anywhere, can someone walk me on to that rule? Second, is AAA affected by terrain? On the one hand, it has Attack and Defense values, which suggest it is. On the other hand, the rule states outright it is on 3’s, which suggest no modifiers apply. I can see the argument for either side, so I brought it here hoping for a formal response from someone with the authority to make a such a ruling.
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A couple of questions, first, I have seen people saying the winner of the Spanish Civil War stops making recruitment rolls,
Its a bit of deductive reasoning, but In 13.1, in the Spanish Civil War, it states that the Nationalists are controlled by Germany. Thus if the Spanish Civil War ends, they are no longer controlled and no longer make recruitment rolls. Also same goes for the Income & Production section of that.
AAA
I would like to see an answer for this as well. The question would also apply to forts. For example, does an AAA on the Maginot Line get 3 shots at 6?
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@insanehoshi said in The FAQ Thread:
I would like to see an answer for this as well. The question would also apply to forts. For example, does an AAA on the Maginot Line get 3 shots at 6?
I never thought about it before, but Rule 1.23 c) on the Maginot Line does say that « Defending land units get +3 Defense on the first round of combat ».
Anti-Aircraft Artillery is a land units and participates in the first round of combat, as per Rule 12.2 : « An Attacking or Defending AA Artillery rolls one die for each opposing aircraft up to a maximum of three rolls on hits on a roll of “3” or less. […] AA Artillery fire on the first round of combat only. »
So pending correction in the Errata or FAQ, I would say it does get +3 Defense bonus.
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@insanehoshi I can see the position, but since the only other situation in the rules that is similar doesn’t suggest this change either, I can’t agree with that interpretation. Abyssinia can beat back Italy, assumedly forcing peace, but it doesn’t suggest they stop being French controlled or making their rolls. I would of course like clarification on this, but until thay comes, I can’t see anything that says they stop rolling.
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@gnomegrabbin Only controlled minors and the CCP get rolls. Abyssinia and Spain are just examples of this. if they are not controlled, they do not get a roll. Abyssinia doesn’t get a roll if the war ends.
Recruitment rolls are always associated with a controlled power whenever found in the rules. When the war in Spain is over, the sides are not controlled anymore. -
@noneshallpass said in The FAQ Thread:
An Attacking or Defending AA Artillery rolls one die for each opposing aircraft up to a maximum of three rolls on hits on a roll of “3” or less.
Where i see the issue is that the rules for AAA doesn’t say it rolls at its defence, or rolls at its attack value, it says it rolls at the static value of “3”.
While it might be intended that AAA is affected by terrain and forts, i think it might be problematic as AAA is balanced by it firing one time, but forts giving them a bonus one time seems to counteract that. This would make AAA incredibly strong in fortified zones. Toss a fort and 3 AAA into paris, and that’s going to be 9 dice at 5 (assuming the germans bring 3 planes).
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@insanehoshi My thought is that since AAA is a land unit, anything referring to “land unit” such as terrain or forts, applies. Also, it is listed as having an attack and defense value on the battleboard and rulebook, so I would say that it does have an attack and defense.
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@trig But I don’t see anything that says they stop being controlled. Am I missing some footnote somewhere that says when they are no longer at war they revert to being neutral? I can see the logic behind the argument for that interpretation, which is what makes this question so frustrating. But I can also see the logic behind it not changing, the major power in question establishing a puppet government or simply locals rallying to the cause of the liberator who secured their own independence.
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@trig I’m with you that AAA should get boosted or debuffed based on terrain / fortification.
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@gnomegrabbin I’m with you that the controlled minors do not suddenly become strict neutrals after a victorious fight.
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@gnomegrabbin The condition for control is the state of the Spanish Civil War. If there is no civil war, there is no control.
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@insanehoshi but what are we basing that on? I can’t find any rule that says so, nor anything that suggests it.
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@gnomegrabbin First find a rule that states they are controlled when there is no civil war.
Anything in section 13.1 Spanish Civil War can only occur within the confines of the Spanish Civil War, that includes control.
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@insanehoshi I’m sorry, but they start the game as controlled. So you tell me why and when that status changes per the rule book please and thank you.and your reference about what’s in the SCW stays in the SCW doesn’t tell me anything / convince me.
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@insanehoshi Table 4-1
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@theveteran Yes, because the Spanish Civil War exists at the start of the game.
@gnomegrabbin said in The FAQ Thread:
table 4-1
Is that the table that also says that they arnt controlled in the 1939 setup?
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@insanehoshi ah, you are right, it does say 36 only. That does lend some weight to the argument. Certainly not enough, but some. Yet more reason for a clarification.
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