House Rule: Soft vs Hard Cover

@d142:

yeah, that make’s it easier to understand, if i’m 2 hex’es away the target has cover. another question come’s to mind, are there any restriction’s for line of sight when firing past friendly or enemy units.
is the expert rulebook worth getting or is everything covered in the advanced rulebook,
i have only played a few games of miniatures.

Money is better spent on boosters to make complete armies.  This is the last thing to buy.

It kinda sucked.  Made very poorly in black and white and hard to read the illustrations.  Basically same as the advanced rulebook + some extra confusing rules (Overwatch, Enfilade Fire, Grazing Fire) that are ok but too complicated.  Maps were good.  Formations (platoon card) can be downloaded.  Couple of scenarios.

To answer your question, it wasn’t worth the money but I feel it’s a must have if your into the game.  You just can’t pass up on the maps and someday the expanded rules may spice up the games if they’re getting boring.  Like I said, make this the last priority of things to buy for this game.

@Motdc:

With these new rules, you cannot start the game with your 88 or Bofors loaded on a transport, move to a drop location on turn 1, and dismount it.

How is that not broken!?

Agreed, this needs to be fixed.

I actually get it now. Thanks Ducky!…and MOTCD  :-)

Ah yes, good times, good times  :-D :evil: :-D

And when you play 6 BARs and you need init, which means you pay the 11 points for the SE Para Commander and his +3 init bonus

Zimistry:

you must be some kind of genius.

all i can add is Avalon Hill is run by fantasy game idiots who spend all their time playing D&D when they were young and latched on to AH because they figured: “gee i can remain an idiot, get paid, and support a company based on other idiots besides myself”

WOTC has no idea what their targeted audience is because they wont accept that its still primarily wargamers who were with them back in the day, but they view everything through a constant reminder of being the company with the next “Magic: the gathering” cash cow because they desperately want to be a caterer to those young misfits with plenty of money from mommy. They should stick to grinding it out making legitimate games. When they have an idea its usually get in some hot designer, rub him down, and hope he can pull out a winner for the team.

Its almost like how Al Davis of the Raiders always gets these washed up guys who were great 5 years ago, and think all you do is take a chance on them only to get junked with another defeat. Its a cheap way to sell tickets, but does little to provide a constant steady cash flow and rather the sales go up and down like an elevator. AH want to do business by peaks and valleys and thats why they alienate people like you and me and don’t care.

:roll:

@dezrtfish:

As far as air goes, I don’t like the idea of a sniper taking out a P51, that just seems quite improbable.  An MG42 I can see.  I also can’t imagine an M1 Garand nailing an ME109.  Could it happen? maybe, but probably not.

Again I see it as more of a playability issue. Is it realistic? No, not even close. Heck really planes shouldn’t be in the game at a such a small level. However, I shouldn’t be completely screwed over just because I’m not using dedicated AA, which is otherwise a bit of a waste if my opponent doesn’t use aircraft (perhaps this is where a sideboard comes in… :).
It seems to me that these rules are encouraging a more defencive game and creating an environment where you want your infantry spread out - that way they’re less prone to enfilade/grazing shot, and can also perhaps get in line with a plane to help bring it down.

I didn’t get to play a game sunday with the rules, but I hope to some time this week to try them out.

Planes attack the same way as any other unit, with the sole exception that terrain doesn’t block LOS to and from them.

While I don’t hate them, I’m not a huge fan of airpower either.  Things bog down too much when you have to constantly ‘watch the skies.’

1. On stacking limits in a two player game you’re correct - 4 Units total. Only 2 units per player, and only 1 of the 4 can be a vehicle (whether it’s a Jeep or a King Tiger doesn’t matter). However in multiplayer games it may work a bit differently.

2. Units never block line of sight.

3. Hills are basically no different from forests - they don’t give you any extra vision on their own (though some units can benefit from them because of SAs, like the Nashorn); the only difference is vehicles have to make a movement roll into the forest. That’s it. AH/WotC kept the rules fairly simple so no extra LOS mechanics.

4. You can move into a hex with an enemy unit, but doing so provokes defencive fire, as GrimJesta states. However remember disrupted units can’t defencive fire either. Defencive Fire is provoked if a unit moves from an adjacent hex to another adjacent hex (note moving out of an adjacent hex does not provoke defencive fire). The defencive firing unit can decide which hex to make the attack in. Roll the attack normally, but if you would score 1+ hits you simply cause an immediate disruption instead, causing the provoking unit to stop in that hex and end its movement.  If the hex the provoking unit is being attacked in provides cover, then the unit rolls; if successful then the provoking unit isn’t disrupted and continues on. Each unit can make one defencive fire attack per phase, so a standard tactic is to move in first with a less threatening unit to draw fire.

5. You can’t die from defencive fire unless it was caused by a flamethrower; the three 6’s effect still applies. Except for units which are immediately destroyed (death by flamethrower, or a Carro Armato going up) the effects of damaged/destroyed/etc aren’t applied until the casualty phase after both players have made their attacks.