Covering fire

@d142:

yeah, that make’s it easier to understand, if i’m 2 hex’es away the target has cover. another question come’s to mind, are there any restriction’s for line of sight when firing past friendly or enemy units.
is the expert rulebook worth getting or is everything covered in the advanced rulebook,
i have only played a few games of miniatures.

Money is better spent on boosters to make complete armies.  This is the last thing to buy.

It kinda sucked.  Made very poorly in black and white and hard to read the illustrations.  Basically same as the advanced rulebook + some extra confusing rules (Overwatch, Enfilade Fire, Grazing Fire) that are ok but too complicated.  Maps were good.  Formations (platoon card) can be downloaded.  Couple of scenarios.

To answer your question, it wasn’t worth the money but I feel it’s a must have if your into the game.  You just can’t pass up on the maps and someday the expanded rules may spice up the games if they’re getting boring.  Like I said, make this the last priority of things to buy for this game.

@Audacity:

My understanding is that airplane facing is important for a number of things such as returnng fire from the bround in the advanced rules but dog fighting in the air between planes has no facing.

Actually it was the optional rulesetcalled the “Expanded Rules” that uses aircraft facing, and that ruleset was not widely accepted by the masses, and at the very least is not used in the official WotC tournement rules.

But yes, they made it more difficult to aircraft from the ground unless it was facing you.

Dismounting into the same hex as the vehicles will not trigger DF, and you covered why in your descussion very well.

@Audacity:

The scenario.  An infantry soldier is in a town hex and a vehicle crosses the open ground and enters the same hex.  The soldier is entitled to defensive fire.

The rule states the defensive fire effects (ie which hex it occurs)  is determined by the defender.  In this case that means the defender says if the effect take place in the open ground hex or if it happens in the town hex.

Question.  If the defender awaits until the vehicle has entered the town hex, can he use his abilities to attack vehicles in his own hex with the far superior dice rolls or is Defensive fire only about direct fire

Yes. You get to chose where the defencive-fire occurs, and if you have any special abilities such as flamethrower or close assault you can use them. Only a few abilities are worded such that they can’t be used for defencive-fire (eg the Goliath’s ). So if your unit is, for example, simply a regular infantry it will probably be best to make the defencive-fire attack in the same hex where it can use its close assault.

Mmm…Daisy Duke.  Sorry, that’s really all Hazzard means to me.  Sounds like he left an impression though.

Currently there is nothing that can benefit from the SS-HSF having a face-up disrupted counter between the casualty phase and the beginning of the SS-HSF player’s movement phase, so it doesn’t matter as much as the SS-HSF ignores it so can defencive-fire, etc, still.

However, I usually leave it on anyway then remove it at the beginning of my movement phase like your supposed to since that is the rule; and who knows in future sets there might be something that can effect it.

And really, it’s not like it’s a lot of effort either way.

right you are

@General:

But you must remember the hexes are 100 meters from side to side, so even if an infantry squad approaches a tank “from the front” there is a lot of room to maneuver in the hex itself, so your infantry can ostensibly be approaching from the side, around trees and hills, in the FOG OF WAR as bullets are flying and the tank is preoccupied with other things.

Which is the point I was about to make. I’d also like to add to it that though the hex might be a clear, grassy field as far as game mechanics, you gotta keep in mind that the grass is usually very high, has some scrub and trees scattered about, rocks, gullies, maybe even a cottage or two… they’re not flat and empty. So at 100 meters and having some clutter (but not enough to warrant making cover rolls) and such it isn’t unrealistic for infantry to be able to avoid defensive fire from a tank. It’s only when the infantry gets close to the tank (ie: in combat) that the tanks machine guns defend it. Otherwise the infantry isn’t visible to the tank regardless of how many peepholes it has.

-=Grim=-