• So Un True!!
    the SS was origanily meant to be an all Arian army but as the war went on they started to allow non arian Germans and scandinavians into the SS never anything more
    most ethnic groups were bnned from the SS right through to the end.

    oh ya and the U-boat crews got the best eqipment and food


    I will not kill myself for that Bohemion Cpl.

    • Field Marshal Friedrich Paulus (speeking of Hitler the day before his serender of the 6th army at Stallingrad)

    [ This Message was edited by: mini_phreek on 2002-03-27 15:45 ]


  • Wow they actually hold WWII reenactments in your neck of the woods. Being from California I never experienced anything like that except for mock “real war” paintball battles and of course the usual Civil was reenactments. Can you tell me anymore about it?

    As for the sub comment, I’m not sure that the comment of the best food is correct. From what I’ve read, living conditions in U-boats were horrid and most sub crews were restricted to canned goods but I might be wrong on that.


  • ya the limited suply space on the u-boats meant mosty army rations and non parishables but i meant on the bases they got the best food.
    if you want to see how life is like on a u-boat the movie “Das Boot” is a good reprasantation


  • Das Booty

  • '19 Moderator

    Actually the best and biggest battle I participated in was an Arnham simulation, which was held at the “combat town” at Ft. Ord., which is in YOUR neck of the woods.

    There were several hundred participants Mostly British Airborne and German SS, although I believe there were actually some people who dressed as members of the 1st Polish AB.

    I’ll see if I can find some links for you.


  • This might be off topic, but where the hell did the germans get cigarettes? did they grow tobacco, or did they capture it?

    i always wondered…


  • Well I heard that the Germans liked nothing more than captured American cigarettes, but beside that it’s a very good question. I don’t think Germany (or much of Europe) has the climate cigarettes so they probably had to be imported or raised in small quantities.

    Thanks for clearing the little U-Boat comment for me. I still wouldn’t want to be a U-Boat captain just because of the better food though, especially after 1943 when U-boat losses were horrific.

    Hmmm… never knew California had stuff like that. Exactly how many people participate? Are there any Eastern Front battles are is it just confined to America battles? What kind of weapons are used?

  • '19 Moderator

    Actualy Califoria is one of the more popular states for WWII reenacting. They represent Units from Many diferent countries. I think the largest Unit in California is the 12th SS Hitlerjugend. If you do a search on MSN for “WWII and reenactment” you’ll be ammazed at what you see.


  • The largest mock army in California being the Hitler Jugend? Sounds kinda strange if you ask me. I always thought the largest units would US Army Rangers or Airborne, but it seems people have a knack for Hitler or being the bad guys.

  • '19 Moderator

    Well the weapons and uniforms of the SS are cool and I think people worry about not being up to standard to represent well-respected units like the Rangers etc. Those Units do exist though. When I joined up my choices were American Infantry, German SS, German Weer, or Scottish Airborne. The Scots were some damn cool guys. In fact I was considering putting together two kits, But that stuff gets expensive! The basic uniform for the Germans is the cheapest I believe, which was a major factor in my choice. I think I probably spent close to $1000 and I just had a K98 bolt-action rifle. Some of the guys who are into it spend thousands on automatic weapons and vehicles.

    We, the 10 SS, had 3 BMW motorcycles with sidecars, a kublewagon, a 2 1/2 ton truck, and a towed anti tank gun as well as several MP-40s and a couple crew served machine guns.


  • how much does a Mp44 sturm Gewher or a Mg42 go for?


  • Do these guns even fire anything (ie smoke, rubber bullets, bbs, live ammo, ect.)?

  • '19 Moderator

    I only saw one MP44 the whole time I participated. It made me feel all soft in the midle;) Awesome rifle, they are very rare and cost thousands. I have fired the MG42 and the MG39 not quite as expencive although still probably over $1000 for an operable. The price comes down quite a bit for a blank only gun. You can actualy buy a demillatarized MG for a couple hundred bucks but the action has been cut into three or four pieces with a torch. If you manage to get it welded back together you have to register it and get an automatic weapons license. The license is 2 or 3 hundred dollars and is renewed yearly. In order to get this license you sighn away your right to search and seasure. The BATF is allowed to enter your residence to inspect you weapons at any time. This aplies wether you buy the gun intact or rebuild it your self.

    This is why I say the fun toys are expencive.

    The bolt-action rifles fire blanks, crimped ends with no projectile. The autos have a few options. If you have a “blank gun” the barrel has been drilled through and filled with lead. These guns fire fine with crimped end blanks. They also do not require a automatic weapons license.

    If you have an operational machine gun you have to adapt it to fire blanks. One method, used by the Germans for training was that the bullets were made of wood and an adapter was made that was similar to clamping a nail inside the barrel this was called a “bullet shredder”. This was used for the MG 39 and 42.

    As for knowing if your hit, well that goes by the honor system or referees. Half the fun is dieing creatively, besides some times you get tired of running and it feels good to play dead for a while!


  • Ha. Sounds like a fun game. Only problem is is that it’s hard to judge who’s dead when you’re firing a MG42. More like everybody dies.


  • lol! All one thousand of you guys just died!

    Where’s the source of weapons? Is it a catalog, ebay, or what?


  • I think you can buy weapon accessories like the MG42, but not the weapon itself last time I checked. I assuming it’s probably from mail order gun catalogs as that’s wear I get my guns from.


  • my father doesn’t want me buying weapons until i’m 18 (collectible ones, i wanted to buy some ww2 sub-machine guns, and a german machine gun (MG33?)) i’ll settle with army helmets for now :smile:


  • I like cheeze


  • that’s very nice…

  • '19 Moderator

    There is a paper called “Shotgun News” that companies advertise guns in you can get all kinds of accesorys there, but you have to have someone with a dealers license order the guns for you.

    I have a couple of collectable millatary guns. I have my K98 which is matching and stamped 1941, I have an M1 Garand, a Walther P-38 and an AK-47, not sure if that last one realy fits in there but its millitary anyway.

    In one of the battles I went to I built a simulated bunker out of plywood. A buddy of mine and I got in it with an MG42 and an MP40 and two Squads one Brit and one American tried unsuccessfully to “dislodge” us. What a blast. I’m telling you that MG42 is like a buzzsaw, you can rip through a belt of 50 rnds in just a few seconds.

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