• It is debateable if the panzers would of done much good all near the beaches. Rudenstech (however you spell it), did not want the tanks on the beaches, so hitler came up with the 1/3 solution. if they were near the beaches, they would of been near calais, and horribly spread out. Rusenstech wanted to have none spread out, so the allies would be allowed to establish a beachhead, but the germans would be able to take a mass of forces and attack one area alone. Even if this did not throw the allies into the ocean, it would of probably held the allies off more. Germany had troops in Cherbourg long after it was surrounded. they were horribly split. the beaches were too long to protect, and the atlantic wall was a billion reichsmark joke. i agree with the rudenstech guy’s strategy.

    "Hitler a drug adict? i thought he was a health freak he did not even allow smoking in his Berlin bunker.

    oh ya and he also killed his dog allong with his wife. "

    Oh yes, hitler was a real big drugee. Health freak too. in fact he took drugs FOR his health. He had injections every day to deal with his shaking and head pounding, and took pills to help his stomach. His arms were horribly scarred by needles, and his injections and pills were poisons, poisonous penicilin derrivtives, procaine (a kind of cocaine), and god knows what else. He had a special doctor who specialized in Venereal Disease treat him, and he was well respected by hitler, and was given high priority throughout the war. He followed hitler wherever he went (and i cannot remember his name, but he’s a fat guy who wears glasses.) Hitler recieved severe damage to his nervous system because of all the drugs his phony doctor was giving him. Before hitler died, he was taking a drug that dealt with Parkinsans Disease.

    please excuse my spelling!

    And about the smoking, i think you are right. i believe he didn’t want smoking on U-boats, though they smoke two packs a day on them!

    Hitler did kill his dog blondie, with a cyanide capsule. That dog was amazing, on a video of mine, hitler throws a bone over a 12 foot wall, and the dog jumps over and retrieves it. Too bad it just didn’t walk around it…


  • I think that if Hitler and Jodel had released their 15th Panzer from Calais, they might’ve made a difference in the invasion. However, Hitler still thought that Normandy was some diversionary tactic on part of the Allies.


  • i doubt that much could be done to prevent the allies from taking the beaches that day.
    at Omaha the germans were doing an invation drill when the real thing hapaned and they still lost, the 101st was skatered in the wind but still did the needed damage the night before.
    the allies learned from the mastakes of Dieppe and thats what made the landings on June 6 a victory


  • Well I wouldn’t be too sure. I read in a couple of articles that if the invasion was staged on June 4 or 5 when weather condiitons were terrible, the D-Day invasion might not have suceeded. Air power played (even though its never really touched on) a vital role in Operation OVerlord.


  • what goodwould the 15th do if there wereno bridges to cross?


    was it just me, or was this website down for a week?


  • Wait are we talking about the 15th Bomber Group. I don’t think Allied planers would send a whole bomber formation to knock out a bridge.

    Anyways, there’s no doubt that the destruction of bridges in France slowed German froces but toward the end of the war, German wa the one blowing up its own bridges to stall the Allied advance.


  • they didn’t blow the one at remaggen though…i love that story.


  • Yes, but they were about to. The Germans still had to retreat large amount of men, supplies, and guns back to Germany to prevent capture by the Allies. Thank god for the efforts of General Hoge who prevented the crossing of the rhine many weeks.


    Never before have we had so little time in which to do so much

    [ This Message was edited by: TG Moses VI on 2002-04-08 16:05 ]


  • I beleve the primary and secondary explosives failed.


  • So the Germans actually tried exploding the bridge? I thought that Lt. Mott and his squad were able to climb under the bridges and cut the wires for the explosives. Anyways, it’s no doubt that the capture of the bridge shortened the war and saved many American lives.


  • My memory is fuzzy, but i do believe that the explosives did fail.

    maybe i should my grandmother’s brother. he was part of those engineers who built that bridge accross the rhine. but then again, everyone in the family hates “uncle jimmy.”


  • Wow, he’s still alive. Must be pretty old to have been an engineer in his time period. I hope that his memory isn’t starting to get a little foggy.


  • he’s 89 i think.

    actually, my family acquired a lot of things from the war (a brother in the coast guard), nazi uniforms, guns, flags, and allies weapons and uniforms too. a lot of stuff was in “jimmy’s” attic.

    he’s the black sheep of the family, and so we don’t know what happened to all of it.


  • Anything in particular or one of of a kind. As you know, old WWII memorabilia (flags, uniforms) are quite valuable nowadays. I know a close friend of mine that owns a Ceremonial Lugar along with an actually Knight’s Cross that fetches a good penny. To bad the Cross doesn’t have Leaves or Swords…


  • I think that Rommel was an incredible resource that Hitler just flushed down the toilet.


  • Couldn’t agree with you more. But I don’t call humans resources unless we’re talking about Solent Green


  • Rommel was no longer a resource at that part of the war. Even in Africa, germany’s decision (and kesselring’s) to go malta first didn’t happen. unless a second front was open into turkey, rommel was doomed. who was he going to link up with for supplies?


  • Actually I heard that Erwin was to link up with Army Group South in Southern Russia after crossing the Suez Canal.


  • how so? they were thousands of miles away! malta had to go.


  • It was one of Hitler’s fantacies. Impossible considering the best logistics. Perhaps a possibility early on, but at the time of his “dream” no chance. Rommel would have to take the Suez, the Middle East, and then push north. Time consuming and difficult under the best of circumstances.

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