Close Combat 4 and 5 Demo's

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11. Now it is the Allied turn. The same procedure is followed as before. The defending CAP fighter shoots at the incoming planes, and they get to fire back.

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12. The Japanese CAP fighter misses, but the Allied planes shoot it down.

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13. Both planes select the same carrier group to go after. The ships miss their AA fire, so the planes are free to attack.

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14. Both planes score a hit on the carrier and it is sunk. Planes must now return home.

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15. Planes on both sides must land on their carriers. The US plane lost its carrier, and so must ditch at sea (destroyed). Both sides may reshuffle the composition of their groups. At this point, the Japanese player decides if they wish to retreat, and they choose to continue the battle instead. The Allies, however, choose to retreat, The Allied ships return to port and the Japanese fleet continues on its original mission.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/fortress-america/video/fa_web.mov

If you have a computer, then this is one of the best operational games out there, super deep, super detailed, NOT recommended for the non-detailed oriented.  Fetures include: a 1-2 or 3 days “turn”, leaders managment, pilot training, resources managment, oil, fuel, supplies, production, super accurate OOB, a 40 km map that covers from the western US to India and Mongolia to New Zealand.  Best played PBEM, but playing the AI is good too.  Very well supported by a very dedicated group of designers/players.

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/351/details/War.in.the.Pacific.-.Admiral’s.Edition

Answers.

One they are very different games. They are both smaller scale battles but for the most part all the tank units and infantry and artillery work the same in Memoir while you can have six different units and no two would have the same ability in minis. Any similarities is strictly on the surface.

Memoir '44 is better as you get everything you need to play a lot of scenarios just buying the main game. You need a lot more units to get the same variety from minis as from Memoir and it WILL cost more you don’t have to chase rares and the guy who spent the most doesn’t have an advantage over the cash strapped. They have never ‘rewritten’ the rulebook or made earlier sets obsolete as they add expansions and you don’t need several pages of FAQ sheets to keep track of unit interactions.

Minis is better as you can have much more detailed battles and more mix of units and not just recreate battles but very small parts of battles and some of the pieces are pretty decent models and those Memoir pieces are pretty generic. The variety of units touches on a lot more aspects of combat.

Each has their advantages and disadvantages.  :-)

Oh and one last thing – Go Buckeyes.

Just wanted to mention we are at a stage in the campaign where it is convenient to add more players if anyone is interested.  I happen to enjoy posts at least every two or three days, but there’s no rule saying we have to move that fast, scenes can easily be longer with more role play between more active players while waiting for those with busier schedules to find a minute to login and post a round.

why does it take 1 division of marines to take out 1 division of the enemy, when it takes 1 platoon of elite navy seals to take out 1 divsion of the enemy?

ill play you if you want. I have alot of experience in it