Alsch (Axis) vs Auswanderersland and JamesAleman (Allies) Alpha 2

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 armour moved from Hungary to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Baltic States to East Poland 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 2 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 1 submarine moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone Germans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Americans 1 submarine moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone Germans take U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Americans 1 battleship moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 2 Sea Zone from British 1 destroyer moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 1 Sea Zone from British 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco 2 submarines moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Germans take Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Russians 1 fighter moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Germans Battle in South Atlantic Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 transport Americans defend with 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 transport in South Atlantic Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0,00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 transport in South Atlantic Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Germans retreated to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 5 infantry Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Ukraine S.S.R. : 1/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 5 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 6/13 hits, 5,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 5/13 hits, 4,50 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 5 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 5/8 hits, 4,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 2/7 hits, 2,67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 2 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 4/6 hits, 3,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits 2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans winAmericans win with 1 transport remaining, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21 Casualties for Germans: 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry Battle in Morocco Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry Americans defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Morocco 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Morocco Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Morocco 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Morocco Germans win, taking Morocco from Americans with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Battle in East Poland Germans attack with 5 armour, 4 artilleries and 10 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries and 10 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 6/19 hits, 6,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in East Poland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in East Poland Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 5 armour, 4 artilleries and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery Non Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 aaGun moved from Poland to East Poland 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 20 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Poland 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany 1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Poland EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Morocco Place Units - Germans 14 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 45 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0,83 Russians regular : 1,50 Germans regular : 2,17 Russians AA : 0,33

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I normally don’t do that type of stuff but because I was already a bit behind in terms of TUV I risked to bring the numbers a bit back up… but instead they skyrocketed downwards lol.

@AndrewAAGamer

First, the Axis will typically have 2 BH to fire onto the US units there. Every Allied player I have seen until you have used the Naval Bombardments to clear out the UK beaches to try and save the tanks from being destroyed, as it happened in this game. Because why would anyone not want to protect 3 of 14 available tanks, most of which do not get onto the board until the middle part of the game?
That, in my opinion, shows some difference in experience since the allied tanks are a valuable resource to protect.

The main point here is that, with your math, the odds of the US having more than 1 arty walk into Omaha are 50% at best. And the Axis mostly have 2 BH to fight with, which changes your numbers.

Second, there is approximately a 33% chance that 6 dice rolling for a 1 will miss, which is common enough to say your attack into Omaha, at least with the inf, was not getting hosed by missing. But the Germans getting slightly warm dice, added to the lack of hits.

Third, I did not have 6 more units on the board. Those 6 units were on the board from the start, and Omaha Beach is not set up for the Allies to walk over like Juno and Sword Beach. Using your logic, those units walking away from the beach also led to more Allied units surviving later in the game to fire more since you did not have to fight through them on the first few turns. As you would have in most other games. Your math also fails to consider that I can bring a tank, inf, or arty in on G1 to help push the odds in my favor to get those units free from the locked battle at Omaha. Which again changes your math and leads to their escape or the UK having to come in to bog them down again which affects you ability to power project to Caen.

Yes, I had fewer German units on the board. But my play was also based on what resources I had available. Should I have had fewer units at my disposal, I would not have made the earlier attacks that I did since I could see from the board state at round 5, I was in a winning position.

This was one game, so how can you say the game is balanced? Based on the results thus far the game is 100% in favor of the Germans as they are 1-0 right now. Why don’t we play another to put your money where your mouth is to see if you can make it 1-1?

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 8 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Hungary to Rumania 1 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 bomber moved from Germany to Bessarabia 6 fighters moved from Poland to Baltic States 4 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 8 armour, 4 artilleries and 21 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland Combat - Germans Battle in Bessarabia Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in East Poland Germans attack with 8 armour, 6 artilleries and 22 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 6 artilleries and 22 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 10/36 hits, 10.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 8 armour, 6 artilleries and 22 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 6 fighters and 4 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 6 fighters and 4 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 6 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 submarine moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 5 submarines and 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Germany 5 fighters moved from Baltic States to Netherlands-Belgium 6 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Germany Place Units - Germans 8 armour placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -1.67 Germans regular : -0.17

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