2 Hit Battleships? Questions and new Ideas.

Something I struggled with as well because I usually make a move then battle then move into another battle, so on……but yeah you cannot move through freshly conquered territory, you must stop at that territory for that turn.

@Cmdr:

Without Japan helping in Russia, Germany’s going to be hard pressed to earn 22 IPC against Russia and England.

How about
@Sensible:

Without US helping in Europe, Russia’s going to be hard pressed to keep Germany at bay.

or
@Another:

Without US helping in Europe, England’s going to be hard pressed to make any inroads on Germany.

You continue to amaze and surprise with your ability to apply logic on one side, and not equally on the other.

@Jennifer:

1)  8 Infantry purchase. (Purchase Phase)
2)  Sub/Trn to Spainish Sea Zone Submarine (Combat Move Phase)
3)  Two fighters to Baltic Sea Zone fleet (Sub/Trn) (Combat Move Phase)
4)  Land fighters in Karelia (Non-Combat Move Phase)
5)  Move all land units from Russia and all but 1 land unit from Caucasus to Karelia (Non-Combat Move phase)
6)  Move 2 Infantry, 1 Armor from Soviet Far East to Yakut SSR (Non-Combat Moe Phase)
7)  Move 2 Infantry from Evenki National Okrug to Yakut SSR (Non-Combat Move Phase)
8)  Place 8 Infantry in Karelia

end result:

19 Infantry, 3 Armor, 2 Fighters in Karelia
1 Infantry in Caucasus
7 Infantry, 1 Armor in Yakut SSR
(Probably) 1 Submarine in Spainish Sea Zone

24 IPCs on round 2.

Next round either take E. Europe or retake Caucasus (lightly) and start staging British and Americans in finland/norway and move them into Karelia.

Germany should cease to exist in 3 rounds.

I assume you did not play with bids, so I would slightly alter the combat moves. By some they are regarded as weak moves, but hey everybody got their own oppinion.

My usual R1 movements (no bid, no rr)

buy 8 inf

Attack sub sz, with 1 sub.

Attack baltic fleet with 1 fig and 1 tran

Strafe Ukr with everything available from Kar, Cau and Mos (8inf and 3 arms if I am not mistaken). Most optimal result is that you leave Ukr with 1 fig or 1 fig and an arm. (retreat to Kar with your remaining forces)

Attack Man (I believe you can hit it with 5 inf, 1 arm and 1 fig)

NCM 1 inf to cau from russia, rest to Kar.

NCM 2 Infantry from Evenki National Okrug to Yakut SSR
8.) NCM Land you fig (baltic battle) in Kar

NCM Land your fig (Man battle) in yakult

Place 8 inf in Kar

Collect 27 IPC’s

Optimal result:
Kar: 14-16 inf, 3 arms  and 1 fig
Cau: 1 inf
Man: 1-3 inf and 1 arm
Yak: 2 inf and 1 fig
SpZs: 1 sub
Baltic: 1 tran

This is if everything went according plan with dice in your favor. I think a lot of people here will agree with me that this will give Russia the most potential and will set back the Axis the most. But again playing with no bid is really flawed, but you should discover that yourself first before you understand why bids are necessary and where to place your bid.

If IC’s were limited, then abandoning Karelia may indeed be a viable strat (especially if SBR’s were limitted to IPC value of the territory as well).

But, without IC restrictions, the only difference between Russia standing her ground in Karelia and standing her ground in Moscow is that… if they fail in Karelia they have ONE MORE SHOT at holding against Germany, with a UK and possibly a US counter-attack in Karelia to protect them in the interim.

The problem with an IC in India is that when Japan takes it, they can produce all that much more on the mainland.

Besides, I like to use the Indian forces to reinforce China. Japan has to either attack it, or go around and take that much longer to get to Moscow.

And, should Yakut SSR fall, Russian forces can move to Even and China forces can move to Novo creating a second wall. (Make sure to move US forces first, obviously, so that UK and Russian forces can move before Japan can attack.)

In 2nd it must be in the same seazone.

Is somebody out there making up rules as they play?
I saw Germany building an IC on AES on G1 (T1 in the post.) IMPOSSIBLE.
I saw Japan building 2 ICs on Australia(What a WASTE!) and it’s
ONLY 1 IC per TERRRITORY per the rules.

@you:

NO it doesnt!!! when a battleship gets an attack during an amphibous landing, the unit it destroys, if it succeds (and there is a 66% chance of that) the unit gets no retaliation at all!!! at least those are the rules that came with the board game, apparently everyone around here is accustomed to changing he rules. also, the battleship is not involved in battle so it cannot be destroyed. it shoots ground cover for the freighters and the amphibious landers.

well, you’re right in your last sentance.
and kind of right in your second-to-last sentance (although Hasbro/Avalon Hill does make some suggestions for “evening out the playing field”. As for your first 2 statements - they’re wrong, although i’m curious as to which version of the game you received this rule with.