Strategic bombing raid

What you’re saying is true in the second edition, but this is the first edition forum.

I think the strategy is there and works well i win more than i loose against good axis players.  Wondering if maybe we could setup a team to test and get the timings down.  Figure out how many fighters Russia needs to survive Japanese and German non stop Blitz on Russia.  Also how many bombers are optimal to avoid purchasing too many.  I am not sure if you can have too many bombers they have dual roles to industrial bomb and to support attacking\landing infantry in Western Europe.  Figure out what turn USA needs to quit buying bombers and switch to Naval.

when i team up with my dad , he never wants to bomb….so i showed him this, and he said he’d probably give it a try…

@jiman79:

That also happened R2, but UK failed to retake Egypt, so G had a solid income. And the relatively wealthy USSR had to pay IC repair, which neutralized the gain from controlling Ukraine.
Along with the threat from the giant luftwaffe, UK+US took some time establishing a joint shuck to Norway, and by the time it was established, Japan was on Russias doorstep, and the Japs where sending 3 bombers to Russia/Cauc, while Germans where keeping UK down to buying 3-4 inf a round.

In this scenario the strategic bombing and bad luck in Africa killed me. But I would not mind having another go at this strategy, I think I would win 3 out of 4.

Stratbombing looks really cool on the first sight. Only I have not seen it worked. I actually have based the post on my personal experience. I have played many players who stratbombed me and almost all of them complained bad luck in the process. I recalled the old CaspSub paper and decided to check out whether what they say was still relevant for Spring 1942.

And my conclusion was that “bad luck” is nothing that happens to a stratbombing player but something he should expect, bad luck is what stratbombing brings. If you are happy with 0.5 damage inflicted per a raid, than you better think twice about what are the damages you are not inflicting because of strat bombing.

As for the build of bmbs on WUS, I cannot see a calm Japanese player to be forced into buying anything, maybe a dd just to remove even the faintest hope of succes. 4bmbs would stand just 28 % chance of winning against bb, AC, 2 figs; with a dd it drops to 8 % (assuming the first dd killed the sub, in case the sub has retreated there is even less need for building an extra dd). And some people buy two dds J1 anyway. So the southern fleet would not be even necassary to add to the forces on the japanese sea on turn 2, and they can make it there usually turn 3 leaving any air attack on japanese fleet all but impossible.

thank you for your answers, this helps alot

Update

we played today and axis won despite the strategic bombing.
here’s how it went down, from turn 4 on for germany I only bought infantry with a couple art after a few turns. I continued to trade karelia and ukraine for 3 more turns but I mostly stacked men in W.E. and germany. also I kept my fighters in W.E.

what really made this possible was that japan sent his entire fleet to S.E. (germany kept control of suez long enough), so i didnt need to protect it from invasion. japan also landed 4 fighters in W.E.

US and UK still took over W.E. by turn 7 and S.E. by turn 9 but germany was too heavily fortified and i was able to trade S.E. until turn 11 when japan took russia. then with the help of japan, we took back S.E. and W.E. and then proceeded to destroy the allied fleet with japan’s fleet and fighters.

from there it was only a matter of time before UK fell and the US forfeit.

Victory!
so I guess it is possible to overcome heavy strategic bombing strategy, but it means playing really boring germany and japan needs to be really aggressive.

ha ha thanks guys i forgot it mentioned that in the rules (the whole it takes a way a unit being placed in that space thing)

But I’m glad I read all of them because I’ve been trying out different strategies and one of them was to go and strategic bomb my friend just to kill fighters. Thanks for advising against it. :)

Very helpful I will definitely ask more questions to you guys if I need them.

@Jive:

Just played my first game of AA last night, and are slowly getting the hang of things. Couple questions though.

In strategic bombing, if the AA guns miss, and the bomber rolls to see how much damage is done to the factory, does he get to keep doing this?  Or does he get to keep rolling until he does max damage?

You roll 1 die for each bomber that survived the AA Gun once

Also, if a group of planes is doing a land attack on say, tanks in a territory with AA guns, do we roll for the AA guns before every attack?

Thanks!

Jive

You also just roll once before any attacks are made. If you have both fighters and bombers on the group of planes then roll separately for each.

No problem :)