Europe 1940 shows up on Wizards site…with screenshot

@Make_It_Round:

@calvinhobbesliker:

@Make_It_Round:

What are those odd markings on the north coast of Brazil??

They’re the roundels for Dutch, French, and British Guyana

Jeezus.

That didn’t click the first time it was mentioned, for some reason.

What are the implications of this, I wonder?

Will there finally be some action in South America?

…Are any of the Guyanas worth anything, or are they included just to placate us super-obsessive fans?

Honestly, I think they’re just in there for fun since they are already going to that level of detail and now have the French and Dutch present in the game (though the Dutch aren’t actually playable), plus the reason I mentioned above about representing almost all of the countries/provinces involved in the war.  A notable exception being the US as 48 different territories in the mainland would be cumbersome and completely unnecessary: who needs a Rhode Island territory anyway?

However, South America will probably see more action at least as far as the US sending troops down there to collect the extra available IPCs, though how that works out exactly will depend on the rulings for which of those neutrals will be pro-Allied, pro-Axis, or neither.

So I’m looking at the map and it looks like the Sahara extends all the way to the Atlantic. Does that mean Morocco isn’t represented in this game, or just that it can’t be a landing spot for the US to help out in Africa? I do like that you have to go through Egypt to get around the Sahara, so Italy can’t just ignore the forces there and go South.

@maverick_76:

So I’m looking at the map and it looks like the Sahara extends all the way to the Atlantic. Does that mean Morocco isn’t represented in this game, or just that it can’t be a landing spot for the US to help out in Africa? I do like that you have to go through Egypt to get around the Sahara, so Italy can’t just ignore the forces there and go South.

If I had to guess, it’s to ensure the importance of Gibraltar. Since you need Gibraltar to pass into the Med, and you can’t land in Africa without getting into the Med, that would:

A. Actually have Allied and Axis forces clashing at Gibraltar instead of taking turns landing men in Africa.
B. Give some added incentive for the Allies to hunt down the Italian navy, as it should make reinforcing Africa rather difficult in that case.

@kdfsjljklgjfg:

@maverick_76:

So I’m looking at the map and it looks like the Sahara extends all the way to the Atlantic. Does that mean Morocco isn’t represented in this game, or just that it can’t be a landing spot for the US to help out in Africa? I do like that you have to go through Egypt to get around the Sahara, so Italy can’t just ignore the forces there and go South.

If I had to guess, it’s to ensure the importance of Gibraltar. Since you need Gibraltar to pass into the Med, and you can’t land in Africa without getting into the Med, that would:

A. Actually have Allied and Axis forces clashing at Gibraltar instead of taking turns landing men in Africa.
B. Give some added incentive for the Allies to hunt down the Italian navy, as it should make reinforcing Africa rather difficult in that case.

I think you can invade western Algeria without entering the Med

It looks that way for Algeria but I’m just surprised they also don’t have Morocco (from the picture, not a definite thing). But that would be correct, US troops landed in Morocco and Algeria during the invasion of Africa if I’m not mistaken, then allowing them to setup to invade the underbelly of Europe (Italy).

@maverick_76:

It looks that way for Algeria but I’m just surprised they also don’t have Morocco (from the picture, not a definite thing). But that would be correct, US troops landed in Morocco and Algeria during the invasion of Africa if I’m not mistaken, then allowing them to setup to invade the underbelly of Europe (Italy).

I see this a gameplay decision.  I would guess that they want to Italians/Germans to be able to counter attack a US/UK landing at Algeria, with the two fleets standing each other off across the straights of Gibraltar.

That being said, I think it could be interesting having the territory of Morocco being accessible only from the Atlantic side of the straights.

Has anybody run a sharpening filter on this thing to see if they can glean any additional detail?

I had a close ZOOM IN look at this board.  The set-up is 100% fictitious.  If you look at the IPC chart Russia has 10 IPCs but controls most of the Middle east and SW Europe!  Looks like a chimp set this one up.

In addition there does not seem to be ANY French roundel tokens on the board or beside it?  Also not on the IPC chart?  What does this mean?

@FieldMarshalGames:

I had a close ZOOM IN look at this board.  The set-up is 100% fictitious.  If you look at the IPC chart Russia has 10 IPCs but controls most of the Middle east and SW Europe!  Looks like a chimp set this one up.

In addition there does not seem to be ANY French roundel tokens on the board or beside it?  Also not on the IPC chart?  What does this mean?

Could you post the zoom in?

@purplebaron:

Has anybody run a sharpening filter on this thing to see if they can glean any additional detail?

You watch too much CSI.

@cressman8064:

@purplebaron:

Has anybody run a sharpening filter on this thing to see if they can glean any additional detail?

You watch too much CSI.

Perhaps, but that’s probably the only way to get higher quality, since they probably won’t relese the map until September 11.

@cminke:

@calvinhobbesliker:

@cressman8064:

@purplebaron:

Has anybody run a sharpening filter on this thing to see if they can glean any additional detail?

You watch too much CSI.

Perhaps, but that’s probably the only way to get higher quality, since they probably won’t relese the map until September 11.

september 11th???
you mean july or augest? shurly you coud not have ment september. with the quality of wotc and all…

Actually, I do. They’re so bad that:
1. They’ll release a map after the game is released
2. They’ll release it on 911

This better come out 8/24 or I’ll be pissed.

@cressman8064:

@purplebaron:

Has anybody run a sharpening filter on this thing to see if they can glean any additional detail?

You watch too much CSI.

I’m not suggesting that we “zoom in” to determine if the US infantry are using an M1903 Springfield or an M1 Carbine, I just think we might be able to extract a few boundaries (particularly between sea zones) or IPC values.

@cminke:

OMG ANY ONE NOTICE THAT UK AND MOTHER RUSSIA ARE FIGHTING …EACH OTHER???

No, that’s Italy

I want a clean shot of the board, now that would be awesome!

@calvinhobbesliker:

@FieldMarshalGames:

I had a close ZOOM IN look at this board.  The set-up is 100% fictitious.  If you look at the IPC chart Russia has 10 IPCs but controls most of the Middle east and SW Europe!  Looks like a chimp set this one up.

In addition there does not seem to be ANY French roundel tokens on the board or beside it?  Also not on the IPC chart?  What does this mean?

Could you post the zoom in?

way to much pixels

@Dylan:

@calvinhobbesliker:

@FieldMarshalGames:

I had a close ZOOM IN look at this board.  The set-up is 100% fictitious.  If you look at the IPC chart Russia has 10 IPCs but controls most of the Middle east and SW Europe!  Looks like a chimp set this one up.

In addition there does not seem to be ANY French roundel tokens on the board or beside it?  Also not on the IPC chart?  What does this mean?

Could you post the zoom in?

way to much pixels

Just save the picture to your desktop and then use Windows picture viewer to ZOOM IN.  Looks like crap but you can see some details better.

Yeah I used paint, and yes it is really cruddy looking.

@cminke:

@calvinhobbesliker:

@cminke:

OMG ANY ONE NOTICE THAT UK AND MOTHER RUSSIA ARE FIGHTING …EACH OTHER???

No, that’s Italy

ru shrue … prove it
cuz the carier shure looks like the wasp class and the bb looks like the royal oak from revised wait a minet there not even on the right spots, some thing is serios ly rong here.  even i coud do better!

The color of the ships is the same. There is no Italian battleship; they’re 2 cruisers