Not at war non-combat movement for USA

This rule was actually changed from the way it was in Revised in order to prevent air units from getting an extra movement.  In Revised, when a carrier was mobilized fighters were allowed to be moved from the territory containing the IC onto the carrier.  Under that rule, a fighter could move from New South Wales and attack Japanese-held Western Australia, then fly back to New South Wales in noncombat movement, then be moved onto a new carrier in sea zone 62 in the Mobilize New Units phase, resulting in five spaces of movement.

It’s treated in exactly the same way as it normally is when ships begin the turn in a hostile sea zone, with the exception that transports may load there.

Welcome, Alex!

You can reinforce a space in noncombat movement, whether you attacked it or not.  The only restriction is that you can’t move air units into a newly captured land territory.

@Lozmoid:

So - I trust you pay for the upgrade during the Purchase & Repair Units phase, and then the upgrade actually takes place during the Mobilize New Units phase. Is this correct?

Yes.

@Lozmoid:

If this is correct, then I assume that the newly upgraded IC (now a Major Industrial Complex) cannot begin to mobilize its full quota of 10 units until the owning player’s next turn. Is that right? It can still only build 3 units during the turn in which it was upgraded. Please advise if I am wrong.

You are correct.

Thank you for the quick response.

@Romulus:

“Why are you moving those ACs next to my naval base?”
“ACs? Which ACs? They are luxurious liners with tourists on board”
“Mmm… and why there are three of them?”
“Never heard what happened to Titanic? We do not allow our liners going around alone…”

:-D

Just joking and not sure my joke is understandable (it id difficult for me to make a joke in English)!

My point is: in A&A it is impossible to move “secretly” units in order to place them for a surprise strike. Only way of modelling something like a surprise strike is allowing combat move to be made as the powers were still at peace and then… in the combat phase declaring the state of war starting to roll dice. Even so I believe it is really difficult to obtain a surprise.

:-D

Yeah, it is impossible to make surprise attacks the only surprise Japan can bring is when it will attack.

I’ve read once about a variation on Classic that allowed for tactical surprises: you’d need 2 boardgames, each for 1 player and a 3rd player acting as referee. You’d only know the location of enemy units were adjacent to yours or if you sent fighters on recon missions to SZs/territories. The moves of both players were simultaneous: you’d make your combat moves together then the referee would inform each player of the number of enemies for each battle.

from what I understand, if you move a unit during the combat move phase, and attack, and thus declare war on that power,  then the route you took during the combat move phase must have been clear of enemy units or else it is an illegal move.

A destroyer will stop and fight the entire imperial japanese fleet if it has 6 transports and is moving towards san fransisco, that makes sense

Once again, I will echo swiss and say that going after USA first does not work, since apparently some aren’t reading the older posts.

Are you referring to old topics or old posts in this one? Because I read throught the whole topic.

You need 2 transports each to take both hawaii and phill, and in hawaii, you have 2 inf, 1 art, 1 tank vs 2inf 1ftr 1bmr, if the tactical scrambled to prevent bombardment. Thats 1 1 2 2’s and a 3 vs a 1 2 2’s and a 4. The US has a higher defense and the same number of hits. Even if you use a third transport, it would have to come from the carolines, giving only one extra infantry. That may barely win with a tank remaining.

Guess I’m wrong. :-) I’ll give it a few more trials, and may have done it slightly differently to how I recall (may/may not have used transport in both SZ6 and Carolines to assist in Hawaii. At the very least, I still think KUS first is a danger to the Allies, but maybe not so much as I thought previously. Thanks for the constructive criticism! It’s in short supply these days… :|not referring to anyone in particular, just in general