• '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Gargantua:

    Hey guys, do you hear a WAAAAAAAAH sound in the background?

    Yeah!  :-P    Damned Canucks!

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Mallery29:

    There’s more than just gold on the line….
    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/team-usa-vs--canada-hockey-game-inspires--loser-keeps-bieber--billboard---photo-190901911.html

    What if the US wins today? Then who keeps him?

    Mexico? Might be a good fit.

  • Sponsor

    @LHoffman:

    @Young:

    2-0 for the American girls in the 3rd for Gold.

    Yeah, they utterly blew it in the 3rd… Almost as bad as TOR vs BOS. Terrible.

    Overtime wasn’t so bad for a while… until the really garbage calls against the US. Seriously, were either of those call worthy? Really soft call with a slash on the Canadian goalie. Equally poor on the breakaway call. Crosscheck :?.. please… In the replay, it looked like she barely even touched her, let alone cross-checked her.

    LHoffman,

    I know that this sounds completely bias, but the calls in overtime were completely fair. Canada got the first penalty for body checking at the side of the net, that was a good call. Wicker was on a clear breakaway when she was pulled down, that was a good call (although it should have been called interference, not crosschecking). Also, if we are talking about bad calls, how does Wicker not get awarded a penalty shot there? I think we can all agree that she had a clear breakaway, and even if she was skating slow, she still would have reached the net all alone. As for the controversial slashing call… the Americans were warned repeatedly through out the game to stop slapping the goalie after the whistle. This type of behavior was obviously promoted and encouraged by the coaching staff and I blame them for that, I think the ref should be commented for having the balls to follow up on a call after all the warnings, even in overtime. This particular call reminds me a lot of the woman’s soccer game between Canada and the US during the summer olympics, where the Canadian goalie was warned not to hold on to the ball for so long, and she was later called for a penalty… which lead to an American goal that cost Canada the game. The truth is the US had many opportunities to win the gold medal from being up 2-0 with only 3 minutes left, from hitting the post on an empty net after the ref interfered with the Canadian defenseperson (imagine that controversy if the puck went in?), to getting the first powerplay in overtime. The refs were not the factor in this game, at least not to the capacity of Vancouver when the Canadian girls were called for 13 penalties, 9 in a row, but they still won gold… that game was disgusting.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Young:

    LHoffman,

    I know that this sounds completely bias, but the calls in overtime were completely fair. Canada got the first penalty for body checking at the side of the net, that was a good call. Wicker was on a clear breakaway when she was pulled down, that was a good call (although it should have been called interference, not crosschecking). Also, if we are talking about bad calls, how does Wicker not get awarded a penalty shot there? I think we can all agree that she had a clear breakaway, and even if she was skating slow, she still would have reached the net all alone. As for the controversial slashing call… the Americans were warned repeatedly through out the game to stop slapping the goalie after the whistle. This type of behavior was obviously promoted and encouraged by the coaching staff and I blame them for that, I think the ref should be commented for having the balls to follow up on a call after all the warnings, even in overtime. This particular call reminds me a lot of the woman’s soccer game between Canada and the US during the summer olympics, where the Canadian goalie was warned not to hold on to the ball for so long, and she was later called for a penalty… which lead to an American goal that cost Canada the game. The truth is the US had many opportunities to win the gold medal from being up 2-0 with only 3 minutes left, from hitting the post on an empty net after the ref interfered with the Canadian defenseperson (imagine that controversy if the puck went in?), to getting the first powerplay in overtime. The refs were not the factor in this game, at least not to the capacity of Vancouver when the Canadian girls were called for 13 penalties, 9 in a row, but they still won gold… that game was disgusting.

    Unfortunately, I was unable to watch the entire game, and I only saw the third period and overtime, so I was unaware of any clamping down that the referees were making based on earlier happenings. So, if that is the case then I stand corrected. Also, watching ZERO women’s hockey this olympics, I am looking at the game from a men’s/NHL perspective, which is not beneficial.

    I think the body-check call on Canada was completely warranted based on the rules (which for the record I think are rather dumb for women’s hockey).

    The breakaway should have been called differently, it also should have been a penalty shot. I actually would have been much more okay with that. Calling it a cross-check just irked me because it was wrong on two levels and made the ref appear incompetent.

    All in all, the US women lost this game for themselves. It was not the officiating and it wasn’t Canada’s “fault”. Granted, the Canadian women played ferociously for those last 3 minutes in the 3rd and capitalized on a perfect opportunity in overtime. The Americans had it all sewn up but could not hold on. Too bad… but in losses like that I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. They blew it.

    But overall you are right YG. Thanks for the explanation.

  • Sponsor

    You are a true gentleman LH, I wish your boys luck this afternoon, but I have to wish mine a smidgin more.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Young:

    You are a true gentleman LH, I wish your boys luck this afternoon, but I have to wish mine a smidgin more.

    Why thank you sir.

    No worries… I would expect nothing less. It will be a good one… always one of the best games every four years.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    Well… 1-0.  :-(

    Very good game, can’t say that I am unhappy with the boys. Clearly they laid it all out and did the best they could. Everyone played very well. It is rare that you can say that for every player on both teams, but it really is true.

    Canada very much seemed like the better team. The US had few chances and the ones they did have were average. Forwards and defensemen played a very solid defensive game for Canada and carried the offense for great lengths. Ultimately their talent gave them an edge, though I commend the US for playing so hard. Great game and nothing to be unhappy about. Still wish the result was different…

  • Sponsor

    @LHoffman:

    Well… 1-0. �:-(

    Very good game, can’t say that I am unhappy with the boys. Clearly they laid it all out and did the best they could. Everyone played very well. It is rare that you can say that for every player on both teams, but it really is true.

    Canada very much seemed like the better team. The US had few chances and the ones they did have were average. Forwards and defensemen played a very solid defensive game for Canada and carried the offense for great lengths. Ultimately their talent gave them an edge, though I commend the US for playing so hard. Great game and nothing to be unhappy about. Still wish the result was different…

    Agree 100%, World class defense from both sides. Everyone talks about the talent and skill up front, but we just saw that great defense and goaltending can win big games. I recall Ryan Mac making a phenomenal defensive play to breakup a Jeff Carter 2 on 1 rush. A huge glove save by Price in the 1st period, and the way the Canadian defense exited their zone was a treat to watch. Kessel’s hooking penalty in the 3rd killed any momentum the Americans had in order to tie the game. To be honest, I was expecting a lot more from Kane and Pacioretty because the US needed somebody to step up other than Kessel and Van Reims, but Calaghan, and Brown had great tournaments. Good luck going for Bronze.


  • The Canadian girls gets the gold!!! Bye bye USA…
    And who’s score the 2 last goals!!!
    A true Quebecquer… AGAIN!!!

    And tomorrow Canada will beat Sweden…
    And who’s gonna score the winning goal…
    Patrice Bergeron…of course…


  • How can you NOT be disappointed in USA Hockey.  All you USA hockey lovers got all hyped up with the same old crap.  You got WAY ahead of yourselves AGAIN with a meaningless win in the pool round.  Face the facts… Canada and Sweden have DOMINATED this sport the last 20 plus years with the Finns always a solid second.  Until hockey is pushed at more levels, the USA will always remain a second rate power.

  • Sponsor

    For me, Finland has passed Russia in the world power rankings.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    I’ve got 5 loonies that say Sydney Crosby scores the winning goal AGAIN.

    Hopefully not in overtime this time…

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    LHoffman~ My personal opinion:  the United States is the one team (remaining) in the tournament that actually seems like a team. They really gel and appear to play very well together. The Finns and Swedes have been okay in that respect too. The Canadians have been a major disappointment from all the hype though. With their talent they had been predicted or expected to absolutely annihilate their opponents… that has not happened. Even a 6-0 victory was not as dominant as you would think.

    G
    This is when it’s ok to tell someone, that their personal opinion, WAS WRONG

    ;)


  • @Gargantua:

    I’ve got 5 loonies that say Sydney Crosby scores the winning goal AGAIN.

    Hopefully not in overtime this time…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5sEzu1njoA

    Hate to bring up bad memories for you Garg!  Kariya sucks!

    Let’s face it though…the 94 Swedes roster was FAR SUPERIOR to anyone else that year…Canada was lucky to get it to the Shootout IMHO.


  • Definitely not a repeat of Lillehammer….so much for not being a team!  :roll:

  • Sponsor

    WAY TO GO CANADA!

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Gargantua:

    LHoffman~ My personal opinion:   the United States is the one team (remaining) in the tournament that actually seems like a team. They really gel and appear to play very well together. The Finns and Swedes have been okay in that respect too. The Canadians have been a major disappointment from all the hype though. With their talent they had been predicted or expected to absolutely annihilate their opponents… that has not happened. Even a 6-0 victory was not as dominant as you would think.

    G
    This is when it’s ok to tell someone, that their personal opinion, WAS WRONG

    ;)

    :cry:  I am ashamed.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    Don Cherry had it right though.

    But then again, he is Don Cherry.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Mallery29:

    How can you NOT be disappointed in USA Hockey.  All you USA hockey lovers got all hyped up with the same old crap.  You got WAY ahead of yourselves AGAIN with a meaningless win in the pool round.  Face the facts… Canada and Sweden have DOMINATED this sport the last 20 plus years with the Finns always a solid second.  Until hockey is pushed at more levels, the USA will always remain a second rate power.

    Disappointed, sure. But that doesn’t mean upset with their play (at least against Canada). Seemed like they played as well as they could, but were totally outclassed.

    Upset, angry, embarrassed… all those could be used to describe USA vs Finland though. Obviously, they were mentally spent and had no more will to perform, which is a shame.

    You can throw my name in there for getting hyped up and drinking the Kool-Aide, go ahead. Perhaps I did… but it is not as though the optimism was unfounded. They played extremely well in the prelims and against the Czech Republic. They even played decently against Canada, but just could not score a goal. They were, perhaps, only one goal away from beating them again. To me, that is something. Yes, the USA is second rate; has been for some time. Will be until they beat Canada. The only first rate hockey power: Canada. They are in a class of their own right now.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    @LHoffman:

    @Mallery29:

    How can you NOT be disappointed in USA Hockey.  All you USA hockey lovers got all hyped up with the same old crap.  You got WAY ahead of yourselves AGAIN with a meaningless win in the pool round.  Face the facts… Canada and Sweden have DOMINATED this sport the last 20 plus years with the Finns always a solid second.  Until hockey is pushed at more levels, the USA will always remain a second rate power.

    Disappointed, sure. But that doesn’t mean upset with their play (at least against Canada). Seemed like they played as well as they could, but were totally outclassed.

    Upset, angry, embarrassed… all those could be used to describe USA vs Finland though. Obviously, they were mentally spent and had no more will to perform, which is a shame.

    You can throw my name in there for getting hyped up and drinking the Kool-Aide, go ahead. Perhaps I did… but it is not as though the optimism was unfounded. They played extremely well in the prelims and against the Czech Republic. They even played decently against Canada, but just could not score a goal. They were, perhaps, only one goal away from beating them again. To me, that is something. Yes, the USA is second rate; has been for some time. Will be until they beat Canada. The only first rate hockey power: Canada. They are in a class of their own right now.

    Taken like a man.

    My respect for you LHoff, and USA is up +1.

Suggested Topics

  • 1
  • 4
  • 236
  • 27
  • 7
  • 7
  • 51
  • 4
Axis & Allies Boardgaming Custom Painted Miniatures

104

Online

17.3k

Users

39.8k

Topics

1.7m

Posts