• yeah, I heard about it a few months back when Ewoks mentioned it to me. It looks real nice and was designed by the same people who made Europa Universal(?) - great game BTW. What are the system requirements?


  • I guess not too much more or else than you needed for Europa Universalis. It’s the same engine.


  • i have it preorderd and it came out on the 26th but didnt ship to my local EB til this Friday so ill pick it up 2day, ive bin wanting to start a thread on this game but i was to lazy to type lol ill tell u guys how it is ill be killing Democrats and Commies all day after school :P


  • –don’t worry, I’ll enjoy handing beatdown to nazis in Hearts of Iron. :wink:

    But until then, I will be smashing through the nazis in PGII. :)


  • heh u can get rid of the nazi gov ealr=y in the game if u play ur cards right. u can make ww2 Demo vs Commie ;)


  • hahaha, communist always win against demos. :wink:


  • um LOL well according to history um ur wrong :P


  • What history?


  • Let’s see the history: ;)
    Russian Civil War: Commies 1 Democrats 0
    German Revolution 1919: Commies 1 Democrats 1
    Chinese (Civil) War: Commies 2 Democrats 1
    Korean War: Commies 3 Democrats 2 (draw)
    Vietnam: Commies 4 Democrats 2
    Cuban Revolution: Commies 5 Democrats 2

    Feel free to add some, esp. struggles in Africa. :D


  • cough Cold war… 5 points to the Democrats


  • i would say that was more some kind of a sudden death :) … but then we need a draw before that anyway ;) :)


  • heh :P


  • Communism = Democracy…


  • o yea its a great game it owns AA i extremly recomend we all get it adn then we can play each othger in multiplayer ;)


  • How are you scoring commies vs. demos?

    Communist Losses:

    S.Korea, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine, Hungary, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechoslovokia, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Taiwan, Russia, Kazakstan, Georgia, Armenia, Chile, Venezuela, Turkeministan, Azerbajin, Spain, Germany, Romania, Congo, Mongolia, Belorussia, Nicaragua.

    Communist Victories:

    China, N.Korea, Cuba, Vietnam

    How are the commies winning?


  • Communism, is, for now, loosing. But i think it’s inevitable, it’s a step we’ll have to pass someday; just imagine, it’s pure utopy; everyone has equal power (money), the perfect harmony of a society, it would not encourage competition, avidity, not those who are polluting to make better profit. Even if you don’t believe it will work, i think it’s still a noble goal, with strong will we can achieve communism, but i do not believe in the communist revolution, anyway not in the sence of Marx.

    About Cuba, it’s a pretty great victory, they’re doing very well even with the santion by the USA, i’m not saying Castro is clean, but at least not as currupted as Bastista. And Chile failed because of the USA, the CIA does not seem to embrace Democracy when America risk to loose money.


  • @FinsterniS:

    Communism, is, for now, loosing. But i think it’s inevitable, it’s a step we’ll have to pass someday; just imagine, it’s pure utopy; everyone has equal power (money), the perfect harmony of a society, it would not encourage competition, avidity, not those who are polluting to make better profit. Even if you don’t believe it will work, i think it’s still a noble goal, with strong will we can achieve communism, but i do not believe in the communist revolution, anyway not in the sence of Marx.

    About Cuba, it’s a pretty great victory, they’re doing very well even with the santion by the USA, i’m not saying Castro is clean, but at least not as currupted as Bastista. And Chile failed because of the USA, the CIA does not seem to embrace Democracy when America risk to loose money.

    what a joke.
    equal power? just because everyone has equal amounts of one currency (money) does not mean that’s something we should work towards (i see examples of this every day), nor does it mean that its an equal society for everyone as different currencies will arise and the “ruling classes” will be defined by some other currency.
    Competition and profit, like many other things can be excellent motivators or they can work against society. I’m a very competitive person, and i am working towards many profits - monetary, life experience, wisdom, etc.
    And i think there are many Cubans who would quickly disagree with your assessment.


  • just because everyone has equal amounts of one currency (money) does not mean that’s something we should work towards (i see examples of this every day), nor does it mean that its an equal society for everyone as different currencies will arise and the “ruling classes” will be defined by some other currency.

    A pure communist society works without money. It is only that the people each have equal opportunities without economic inequality.

    Competition and profit, like many other things can be excellent motivators or they can work against society. I’m a very competitive person, and i am working towards many profits - monetary, life experience, wisdom, etc.

    There is still competition, though it works more under Associative Competition. For an example of this, look at the Liberty Shipbuilding yards during WWII.

    And i think there are many Cubans who would quickly disagree with your assessment.

    And I don’t think many Cubans live in a Communist Society… :-?

    Communism, is, for now, loosing.

    I’m not so sure about that… :-?

    i do not believe in the communist revolution, anyway not in the sence of Marx.

    Marx believed in different kinds of communist revolution…

    About Cuba, it’s a pretty great victory, they’re doing very well even with the santion by the USA, i’m not saying Castro is clean, but at least not as currupted as Bastista.

    Underneath Cuba is not doing so well. It is very difficult for communism to operate within one country. Also much political censorship exist in Cuba. :-?


  • what a joke.
    equal power? just because everyone has equal amounts of one currency (money) does not mean that’s something we should work towards (i see examples of this every day), nor does it mean that its an equal society for everyone as different currencies will arise and the “ruling classes” will be defined by some other currency.

    It’s still very close, money is power to buy, and in very capitalistic soceity, it’s power to have better lawyer, better medicare, better live, better education. It’s not only injustice, it’s antisocial, the rich have better right.

    Competition and profit, like many other things can be excellent motivators or they can work against society. I’m a very competitive person, and i am working towards many profits - monetary, life experience, wisdom, etc.

    If we could live in a society without competition (it’s not for now), we could maybe live peacefully, without destroying our neibourg. Also Cuba is the best victory of communism for now, it’s not very big, “great” is exagerated, but it’s still better than North Korea and than China, if we can call china a communist country anymore. Anyway, like i find, communism is loosing for now, it’s more in the mind of intellectuals than in pratice.

    Marx believed in different kinds of communist revolution…

    Marc firmly believe that one day, the proletarians will revolt. In his context he was right but we are not living in the same world as he did.

    A pure communist society works without money. It is only that the people each have equal opportunities without economic inequality.

    We are far from the last state of communism…

    I really wonder how well cuba could be without the US embargo…


  • Marc firmly believe that one day, the proletarians will revolt. In his context he was right but we are not living in the same world as he did.

    Marx also strongly believed in countries where democracy was strong, there would be no need to revolt…

    We are far from the last state of communism…

    Capitalism has not yet exhausted its productive efforts.

    I really wonder how well cuba could be without the US embargo…

    Jimmy Carter may not have been a great president, but he ranks among one of the best, most active past-presidents. You could learn a thing or two about him.

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