• @Cow:

    well 1 russian mech could go to egypt and then blitz down… it just takes a few turns longer. I do this all the time, because I like russian income. those units tend to come back in time for action as well.

    A Mech Inf can’t blitz on its own.


  • @Vance:

    If UK activates North Persia, then Russia can activate Iraq with 2 mech right after the German DOW and get an extra $5.  On the next turn they can move into Egypt.  If Italy is sulking instead of attacking Egypt, the Russians will get Tobruk ($3) and Ethiopia ($4).  Turn after that it will be Libya ($4) and Italian Somaliland ($3).  That’s $19.  Can anyone seriously think they can win as the axis with Russia earning that?  Italy MUST prevent this; they can’t just play defense in Northern Italy.  If they fight the battle of attrition with UK over Egypt it will drain UK’s resources as well as their own, but prevent USSR getting anywhere near those NOs.

    Russia can’t activate Iraq - Iraq is Pro-axis isn’t it?
    You can attack Iraq, defeat the force, and capture it. Meaning you properly have to dedicate more than two Mech. Infs for that.

  • TripleA

    mechanized infantry have a movement of 2.

    They can blitz with a tank, but otherwise move two spaces over friendly territories.
    ~

    Never said russia activates iraq. I said you take it with russia. using either 4 mech units or 2 mech and the 2 persians. use air to assist.
    ~

    I have has so much more success as allies doing this. +5 +4 +3 = 12 income everyturn. you get cash back so fast. then after you kill the tobruk force with a bunch of air… bling bling +7 more. does require russia to part with at least 2-4 mech depending on who you want to give persia to.

    Such a good investment.


  • @Cow:

    mechanized infantry have a movement of 2.

    They can blitz with a tank, but otherwise move two spaces over friendly territories.
    ~

    Never said russia activates iraq. I said you take it with russia. using either 4 mech units or 2 mech and the 2 persians. use air to assist.
    ~

    I have has so much more success as allies doing this. +5 +4 +3 = 12 income everyturn. you get cash back so fast. then after you kill the tobruk force with a bunch of air… bling bling +7 more. does require russia to part with at least 2-4 mech depending on who you want to give persia to.

    Such a good investment.

    Yes, it can blitz with a tank, but you said:
    well 1 russian mech could go to egypt and then blitz down
    It can’t do that, then you’ll need to dedicate a tank with it.

    And no, you didn’t’ say activate Iraq - but the person I quoted did.


  • @Xandax:

    @Vance:

    If UK activates North Persia, then Russia can activate Iraq with 2 mech right after the German DOW and get an extra $5.  On the next turn they can move into Egypt.  If Italy is sulking instead of attacking Egypt, the Russians will get Tobruk ($3) and Ethiopia ($4).  Turn after that it will be Libya ($4) and Italian Somaliland ($3).  That’s $19.  Can anyone seriously think they can win as the axis with Russia earning that?  Italy MUST prevent this; they can’t just play defense in Northern Italy.  If they fight the battle of attrition with UK over Egypt it will drain UK’s resources as well as their own, but prevent USSR getting anywhere near those NOs.

    Russia can’t activate Iraq - Iraq is Pro-axis isn’t it?
    You can attack Iraq, defeat the force, and capture it. Meaning you properly have to dedicate more than two Mech. Infs for that.

    Sorry I guess I had the other Persia in my mind.  But still, they could ATTACK Iraq if north persia is actiated by UK.

  • TripleA

    lez stop arguing guys. russian income from africa is awesome, can we just agree? :)


  • @Cow:

    lez stop arguing guys. russian income from africa is awesome, can we just agree? :)

    Awesome but sometimes hard to do.

  • TripleA

    If there is a will, there is a way. :)

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y

    Where there’s a whip, there’s a way!


  • @Cow:

    If there is a will, there is a way. :)

    Not if a bomber doesn’t want the transport to get its way.


  • Obviously he’d bring some escort.
    The Indian fleet will do nicely.

  • TripleA

    yeah or have a couple mech maybe a tank with it as well moving toward the spots without a pickup.

    I am glad, to see more players doing this russia income thing. Russians aren’t rolling over and dieing to germany as fast now. :)


  • If Germany goes hard and fast against USSR on G1, I don’t know if they have the time or the units to spare to gallivanting off into the middle east.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    The units pay for themselves, and if Germany faces any kind of a STALL, the IPC you’ll collect, will give you the edge you need :)

  • TripleA

    I been playing allies @ 6-9 bid or against allies with that bid amount. They do the russian income trick a bit easier. russia still gets owned, but it isn’t as bad as before where germany walks out with 19 tanks and then waltz right into egypt.

    Still I’d rather russia lost that exploit NO and got to start with a bomber and a couple more inf and USA starting with 1 more bomber as well.

    might not need a bid anymore. plus russia is kind of boring sometimes. the bomber makes it seem cooler. hopefully the starting units gets a boost and that NO modified.


  • this is backtracking in the thread a bit but…

    in regards to russia taking sicily and the like:

    my understanding is that if the SZ was friendly (no axis surface warships), then the italians could NOT scramble unless the amphib was targeted at the AIRBASE tt, in this case Rome.  No combat in the SZ and no amphib at the AB tt = no italian scramble

    tho an OFFICIAL ruling would be nice…

    and a lone italian sub would stop it, even with other allied surface presence?


  • Fighters in Rome can scramble into SZ 95 even if only Sicily - or any other territory - is being invaded.
    Scrambling can force combat in any neighboring sea zone where combat is possible.
    As another example, fighters in gibraltar can scramble against an invasion on Morocco.  Same deal.

    Also, yes, a single enemy submarine would stop a transport-only amphibious assault as well.

  • TripleA

    it is good siciliy and that other island is too overpowering lol


  • @Alsch91:

    Fighters in Rome can scramble into SZ 95 even if only Sicily - or any other territory - is being invaded.
    Scrambling can force combat in any neighboring sea zone where combat is possible.
    As another example, fighters in gibraltar can scramble against an invasion on Morocco.  Same deal.

    Also, yes, a single enemy submarine would stop a transport-only amphibious assault as well.

    oops just looked it up mine was an alpha 2 thing

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