Anti-Balistic-Missile-Defense


  • I believe they did carry those payloads :)

    Hitler didn’t use Chem/Bio weapons because of a mutual unsaid agreement between the Axis and Allies to not use them.


  • Yes, i wonder how real gulf war syndrome really is.

    Who had more bombers, Hitler or the allies…would it benefit him to use those weapons? The threat remained to the end, even when moron eisenhower slowed our forces even more, because fear of the “National Redoubt.” My grandfather would tell my dad stories how his tank and all the others were well supplied and ready to go, b ut stalled so the Russians can advance more. What a load.


  • “Who had more bombers, Hitler or the allies…would it benefit him to use those weapons? The threat remained to the end, even when moron eisenhower slowed our forces even more, because fear of the “National Redoubt.” My grandfather would tell my dad stories how his tank and all the others were well supplied and ready to go, b ut stalled so the Russians can advance more. What a load.”

    Damn politics have to ruin everything, don’t they? Who got supplied following the liberation of Paris, Monty (Market Garden) or Patton (Saar)? Whoes plan was much more feasible? And yet the supplies and the lies still went to Monty. Same thing with Berlin. Patton could’ve taken Berlin but we had to give it up to the Soviets, who in turned raped and looted it.

    BTW: THe SS-1 SCUD could use nukes. It’s Warhead had a weight of 1892 lb, which included HE, chemical, training, 40kT or 100kT tactical nuclear.


  • The scuds could have carried nuclear warheads, but Iraq doenst have nuclear weapons thanks to Israel.


  • I guess I’ll add my oponion to this debate. I voted yes but for a different reason. Now before you guys jump down my throat please hear my entire reason why.

    A small nuclear strike would be devasting for our country, lets say it came from North Korea and the targets were Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, and Sacramento, Targets on the west coast. The Strike would kill millions!! The Land would be ruined for a long time!! However the effect on the polotical landscape would be dramatic!! Most voters for the Democrat Party tend to live in the city, with this strike the 3 west coast states: Washington, Oregon, and California would most likely become Republican strongholds with the Senators and elactoral votes that go with them. Yes the states would be worth less in elactoral votes after the nuclear strike but the Republican Party would still benefit from them, with those 3 states and the South they would be hard to stop in the future Presidental elections!! Plus this would give them a serious edge in the Senate with 6 senators locked up for a long time. The Democrat Party would be crippled for a long time!! The Republican Party would be a juggernaut with no one able to stop them!! Dont get me wrong I’m a registared Republican and i do lean to the right but in no way I would ever want to live in a country controlled by a single party. Even if that party was my own. Also noticed I did say LEAN to the right. I still find plenty of problems with the Republican Party its just that I find more with Democrat Party right now. No one will ever be able to convince me that the death of millions of democrat voters will not change the balance of power!!! Please respond. Please excuse my spelling!!


  • The terrorists and “aXis of Evil” aren’t stupid. They’d never nuke the US. They saw how the US reacted to losing 5000 by topllingthe Taliban. For at least 200,000, all the Arab countries and the communist countries woudl be wiped out and brutally crushed. They know that and wont risk it.


  • Yeah, no country is stupid enough to attack US, unless they’re asking for a deathwish. However, all you need to fire is nuclear weapon is some drunk foreign leader, down on his luck, and feels like “pushing buttons.”


  • The Patriots worked okay, they got some of the scuds. The that technology is being improved, and even so it is the least advanced (tech wise) portion of the developing anti-missile system.


  • first things first we dont have a right to do anything! no country or person does. in life nobody has any real rights. just more garentted privleges. so we dont let Iraq build Nukes they can build them if they want to, well just stop them :) personally althugh Nukes are monumental achievment they ruined the old classic wars. were never gonna have those old wars were sides are balanced and theres a good fight anymore. but also the Nuke saved countless lives aswell. look at it this way. if The US and USSR didnt have Nukes. they would have slugged it out in Europe i can garuentee that. also India probably would have gone right onto pakistan had it not bin for nukes. there would have bin allot more wars were there would have bin full scale fighting. so many lives would have bin lost. and thats why we have such a population problem now :) honestly i think we should let the africans die out. less humans helps control the population and less competition for us when we go for the resources. thats all i have to say right now :)


  • “honestly i think we should let the africans die out. less humans helps control the population and less competition for us when we go for the resources.”

    I find this quite offensive as it was slavery and the European (and to a lesser extent American) exploitation that helped ruin Africa in the first place. Plus, US Imperialism still has a tight grip over the Africans. Maybe we should just let them die out, so we can steal their gold and diamonds (as if we’re not already), huh? :o


  • “first things first we dont have a right to do anything! no country or person does. in life nobody has any real rights. just more garentted privleges. so we dont let Iraq build Nukes they can build them if they want to, well just stop them personally althugh Nukes are monumental achievment they ruined the old classic wars. were never gonna have those old wars were sides are balanced and theres a good fight anymore. but also the Nuke saved countless lives aswell. look at it this way. if The US and USSR didnt have Nukes. they would have slugged it out in Europe i can garuentee that. also India probably would have gone right onto pakistan had it not bin for nukes. there would have bin allot more wars were there would have bin full scale fighting. so many lives would have bin lost.”

    Plenty of major wars have been fought following World War Two without the expense of atomic arms. We have no clear assurances that the next major war will be a nuclear one.

    “We are in the era of the thermonuclear bomb that can obliterate cities and can be delivered across continents. With such weapons, war has become, not just tragic, but preposterous.” - Dwight D Eisenhower


  • yes that is true. major wars were fought that did not involve Nukes but if ther were no Nukes there would have bin many more major wars. the cold war would have bin WW3 instead of the Cold war. (i think)


  • DasEwokSS is right about nukes stopping large wars in the old style. But he is totally wrong about saying QUOTE “Honestly I think we should let the Africans die out.” Those people are our fore fathers, where do you think White People came from??? White people didnt appear out of thin air! We are the descadents of black people. Africa is where the human race was born!!! It would be tragic for Africans to die out, that would be like our older brother and sisters dying and us doing nothing about it.

    TG Moses VI I have to ask you a question. What American exploitation of Africa are you talking about??? From what I know it was the English, French, German, Italian and Belgian who had major colonies in Africa. If there were others please tell us. Please excuse my spelling.


  • don’t forget the spanish and portuguese


  • o i got nothin against black people. exept for the Gangster Rap ones :evil: but i dont mean die out, as in extinction. i mean let them die out till there surroundings can support them with out outside help.

    “that would be like our older brother and sisters dying and us doing nothing about it.”

    its a natural process of life ;)


  • DasEwokSS said QUOTE " Its a natural process of life"

    You don’t think that is being a little harsh on fellow human beings?? These are people you are talking about. It would be totally wrong to let them die out. I’m in no way saying that you have something against black people but I believe you need to rethink your thoughts on this.

    Thanks for the Info F_alk, but was there any major exploitation of Africa by America in the past?? And I’m talking about real exploitation like what some European countries did.


  • i dont care if they are a person who lives next door to me or a bird who flies around in China death is natural and there is nothing significant about the lives of a couple 100 million human beings in my mind. sry if i offend u.


  • You did offend me. But you are intitled to your position. And I would never try and take that away from you!!! I’m just puzzled about why you would think that way. Yes we should take care of fellow Americans first, but I would not have a problem in helping out Africans as well!! But are you saying that if 200,000,000 Africans died that would not bother you?? You compare your next door neighbor to a bird flying in China. Please explain your reason why. I will read it no matter how long it is. Please excuse my spelling.

    I accepted your apology.


  • Moses’ sister, you are a Christian? Why have you not weighed into the religious debate?


  • @waraxis:

    TG Moses VI I have to ask you a question. What American exploitation of Africa are you talking about??? From what I know it was the English, French, German, Italian and Belgian who had major colonies in Africa. If there were others please tell us. Please excuse my spelling.

    Sorry about the hold up, but I got “delayed” in some other post.
    I thought this would be a no-brainer considering slavery* and all, though American “Imperialism” still extends across the African Continent today. America exploits many African diamond and gold workers today, as his form of human labor is so valuable that different groups of capitalists are fighting wars over it in Africa.

    Another example is America’s exploitation of Africa’s oil wealth. For too many countries in Africa, though, oil wealth has been more a curse than a blessing. The gas you put into your SUV may come from an African country where conflict, corruption, bad governance and continued poverty are the rules rather than the exception. The Bush administration and U.S. oil companies have a responsibility to help ensure that aggressive oil exploitation does not come at the expense of human rights, the environment and the human dignity of the poor who live amid such massive wealth. There’s so much more though I’m a little sort of time here. :(

    • = it must also be said that slavery existed long before the arrival of the Europeans, under subject of the Muslim religion in the eleventh century. However exportation of African slaves increased and in time Europe found themselves exchanging guns for slaves. Yet, the definition of slavery in Africa was not tantamount to the American or European vision of slavery. Slavery in Africa was a symbol of honor and not an instrument of wealth and greed. African slaves were permitted to live very normal lives. They had sanction to marry, own property, and customary legal rights. Many of them had significant skill and learning – all while in America slaves underwent brutal beatings, hard labor, and lack of respect. :evil:

    @DasEwokSS:

    o i got nothin against black people. exept for the Gangster Rap ones :evil: but i dont mean die out, as in extinction. i mean let them die out till there surroundings can support them with out outside help.

    Let’s hope so. Also, I can partly agree with you on the Gangster Rap. I hate rich rap artist that sing of the “grave injustices” occurring to them. In reality, real Afro American rappers wouldn’t sell themselves out to the capitalist machine for fabulous riches (reason why Bob Marley was so beloved – he sang for what he believed in and I respected him for that).

    The real rappers are those in the “underground” that have a real reason to gangster rap. I don’t know if you were old enough when this happened, but way back, a rap group by the name of NWA came out with the song, “F—the police.” Growing up in South Central Los Angeles and witnessing the harsh injustices of police brutality (my Afro American friend was beat up by the cops simply because he “back talked” them), I can agree with them. For this reason alone, we need rap music to show us the naturally occurring prejudices and hate that happens today – even if we do turn our heads and shut our ears from it. :(

    @yourbuttocks:

    Moses’ sister, you are a Christian? Why have you not weighed into the religious debate?

    Maybe her connection with the Almighty is so strong that she doesn’t have to squabble differences with others in order to be content with herself? :o

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