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Alpha+2 Allies struggle to win, crazy alternative discovered: Surrender London!

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Surrender isnt part of our vocabulary, correct me if I’m wrong in alpha2 when London falls that brings the US into the war, so why not fight or just give it away I game for the battles (Kursk) = big tank battles between Germany and Russia or (truk Lagoon) big naval battles between Japan and USA or the Battle of Britain/Sealion. and I like to win , to add or change the rules can be fun but this game was not designed to be redesigned by all of us, It’s a step up from the Anniversary edition. If because the Axis won the last 4 games means the Allies cant win , then I think you may be missing some thing but I dont think so from what I can tell the people on the forum are skilled, experienced players. There are a bunch of people who think the game is unbalanced with the Allies being the one with the upper hand. This subject might get ya to think that it is balanced the other way. In 25+ yrs I’ve seen where one side will get a bunch of wins only to be offset by the other, overall I would say that the score is about 50/50 we play on average 2 games a weekend. How did Hitler say it……fight to the last man I think Stalin said it to… Keep gaming and post the results.
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First Game: Axis Wins

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• • Jun 25, 2013, 4:37 PM • Rocmistro Jun 26, 2013, 5:58 PM

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K Jun 26, 2013, 5:58 PM

@Rocmistro:

One gripe: I almost feel that the bonus income stuff forces you to play the War exactly how it played out in reality. That’s a bit of a bummer, as I would like to see different scenarios play out. Oh well.

Yeah, the national objectives are based more or less on historical objectives of the actual war. Think about this though; you had Japan capture Alaska, Italy captured Cairo and Germany conquered Russia without having to face an Allied invasion of France. You DID play it differently from reality.
Plus, believe it or not, a lot of Allied strategies end up being vastly different from the real war. Most successful Allied strategies I have seen involve the US taking out Japan first, then dealing with Germany/Italy. In one game, Germany took London then went on to attack Russia. The US managed to take care of Japan then took Rome and liberated Paris. Germany used so much to take London that they didn’t really have enough to take on the Russians and did very poorly in Russia. Berlin fell to the US and London NEVER GOT LIBERATED!
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Winning Conditions

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• • May 13, 2013, 6:17 AM • SunTzu7 May 18, 2013, 4:08 PM

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G May 18, 2013, 4:08 PM

@knp7765:

By the way, has anyone else noticed that Allied victories usually take much longer than Axis victories? Most of our Allied victories are roughly 13-15 rounds while Axis victories tend to be around 7-8 rounds.

I’ve had numerous Allied victories after 3-4 rounds (when they realize that USA and USSR entering the war is going to be too much to handle), and you can have them in the first round especially if an attack on 95 or 97 goes almost perfectly.
Again, since the Allies win if the Axis can’t, whenever it becomes apparent that the Axis can’t, it’s over. So Allied wins happen at all different stages of the game. Have you ever had Germany fail to take Paris in the first round? Or have their sea battles G1 go badly? There are many ways for the Axis to lose, and lose early :-)

You made very good insights and overall summaries of common situations in the game, by the way. Haven’t heard much from you for awhile, unfortunately!
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Why Alpha 3

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• • Jan 8, 2012, 7:54 PM • Pherman1215 Jan 8, 2012, 10:16 PM

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J Jan 8, 2012, 10:16 PM

Playtest it a bit and see if you think it is balanced. I have to admit in my games Axis usually won but that could be due to differences in skill.
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Clarification on Alpha 2 Rule Changes pls.

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• • Feb 22, 2011, 10:01 PM • 94Canuck Feb 22, 2011, 10:01 PM

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I started working on a rule change aid since I’ve had some requests from a bunch of people on it. I wanted to post my wording for you guys to confirm accuracy before posting the chart. I’m trying to keep it all to one page which is proving difficult.

Note: I did not add the IPC shift for UK, nor the reduction in AA gun cost as that is reflected in the Game Aid already completed. The text will be as follows:

1.) AA Guns are removed from play if a territory is captured.
2.) Major Industrial Complexes are reduced to Minor Complexes upon capture. Only the ORIGINAL owner may upgrade it back to a Major if the
territory is liberated. Major IC’s cannot be built on foreign territories.
3.) The Soviet Unions Neutrality is not effected on opposing maps when only at war with European, or Pacific Axis powers.
4.) Scramble Rules have been changed to the following:
1.) Takes place at the START of the Conduct Combat Phase for powers AT WAR ONLY.
2.) If there is an active Air Base a total of 3 Fighters and/or Tac Bombers located on an island or coastal territory may scrambled to the adjacent
Sea Zone. Rare Sea Zone cases that are adjacent to multiple active Air Bases can scramble 3 planes per Air Base.
3.) Can help friendly naval units under attack or to resist an Amphibious Assault even if the Amp. Assault is on a different territory.
5.) Victory Conditions are as follows: AXIS - 6 of 8 Victory Cities on Pacific Map OR 8 of 11 Victory Cities on the Europe Map
ALLIES - Control of ALL Axis Capital Cities
6.) Unites States’ Minor Industrial Complexes are upgraded to Major when the US is at War. These IC’s can be upgraded for the 20 IPC’s while Neutral.
7.) Strategic Bombing Raids now follow the following order of Combat. (Note: Strat Bombers can attack IC’s, Air or Naval Bases. Tac Bombers can
attack Air or Naval Bases):
1.) Any Escorts (Fighters) attack at 1 against any enemy Interceptors (Fighters). Casualties are removed IMMEDIATELY.
2.) Strat and/or Tac Bombers attack at 1 against any enemy Interceptors. Casualties can defend.
3.) Interceptors attack at 2 against attacker Bombers. Escorts may only be taken after ALL Bombers have been destroyed.
4.) Surviving Bombers declare which facility is to be targeted.
5.) Facility AA Gun Defense hits on 1. Roll one die for each Bomber attack the facility.
6.) Bombers attack. Strat Bombers add +2 to the dice rolled. Tac Bombers hit on dice rolled. Damage removal is on a 1:1 ratio.
8.) The United States may declare war on the Axis if London and/or any North American Territory is captured.
9.) Subs no longer can fire a ‘sneak attack’ at unescorted Transports. Transports cannot unload from a Sea Zone with an enemy Sub unless a friendly
warship was also present during Combat Movement.
10.) The United States Navy, while Neutral may only occupy Sea Zones adjacent to their territories, excluding Sea Zone 102 (No transports) on the
Europe Map. On the Pacific Map the Navy may not end movement in Sea Zones adjacent to Japanese controlled territories.
11.) Kamikaze Strikes can be used in any of the marked Sea Zones where an Allied player conducts Sea Combat or an Amphibious Assault is to take place.
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Alpha 2+ Setup Pics

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• • Feb 9, 2011, 7:31 PM • BulwFi Feb 10, 2011, 7:12 PM

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Alpha+2 Setup Sheets

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• • Jan 28, 2011, 4:58 PM • Hansolo88 Jan 31, 2011, 5:55 PM

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H Jan 31, 2011, 5:55 PM

Thanks for trying them out, and PLEASE help me correct the errors that you find! Just post them here or on BGG and I’ll upload new versions as soon as they are fixed.

Also, I like the idea of adding in a sheet or two summarizing some of the rules changes to submarines, SBR, etc. I plan on doing this. Have any suggestions of things that should be covered, let me know.

Also, keep in mind the NO descriptions are meant to be reminders, not an exhaustive description. They should be helpful but may not explain everything needed due to space constraints. However, if you are finding any of them misleading then let me know.

EDIT: Ok I did a check and found a couple major errors, my sincere apologies to anyone who printed these! I have taken down the file and submitted a new one that I believe is 100% accurate, its waiting for approval.

EDIT: February 3, ok new files have been approved and are available at the link above.
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Alpha+.2 Retro themed Global 1940 Charts

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• • Jan 17, 2011, 5:49 AM • CHILDREN Jan 23, 2011, 3:52 AM

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M Jan 23, 2011, 3:52 AM

Thanks for the excellent work on the charts, they’re really good. My favorite is the 2.2+ style.
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London Calling….....

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• • Sep 8, 2010, 2:50 AM • oztea Sep 10, 2010, 12:05 PM

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J Sep 10, 2010, 12:05 PM

Seems like UK can ignore bombing and not launch interceptors.

If I was going to bomb UK, I would just rather conduct air attacks on London land and air units, thereby actually killing units and forcing at least a small buy there as Germany starts the game with 1 transport.

Each bomber or fighter kills 3 IPC’s when it kills an infantry, or 10 IPC’s when it kills a fighter. On G1 you can kill 3 fighters and 2 infantry for a cost of 3-4 air units. The UK fleet is meaningless without land units to take German soil. If you build a tac bomber and fighter (1 IPC cheaper) a turn, you will still clear 9 infantry (27 IPCs) for like 5 air units (unless you can build enough air to end it one round in which your losses would be 3 units-30 IPCs). I would rather throw air units away killing units then damaging a facility that may not be repaired.

I’m not saying I would do any of this, but this is the technique I would prefer over bombing.

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